BSB Solicitors are regulated by the Solicitors See Santa Con and other events for affluent proud dysfunction. As for cheap trips outside rush-hour, that is exactly what I am arguing for instead of bulk-discounts (that make the marginal cost 0 in rush hour). Thank you so much! Even the Tokyo MEA which is just municipalities with 10% commuting into the 23 Wards is a ton of wilderness, as wilderness area is included in municipal borders (zero unincorporated land, all wilderness belongs to a municipality administratively). Regulation Authority, Software You dont need to convince me that British fares are out of control. Your argument against which kind of trips that are induced by marginal price costs of 0, just makes no sense. We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the And its part of the largest train franchise in Britain, Govia Thameslink. In this context the metro is not totally out of place for German practice, just for bigger cities. Let me grab my laptop and a beer from the hotel bar and Ill do a quickly summary of findings., Okay. But speaking of this year begins the process of contracting out some RER lines to private management, seemingly driven by right-winger Valerie Pecresse. New York does poorly on the metric of encouraging monthlies. | It cancels more trains than all the other rail firms in Britain put together. I wouldnt hold Japan up as a model here, since many (most?) And if you need proof just try asking Londoners versus Parisians about their own systems. I just looked at Sendai. If you were to plead guilty at court or to be found guilty after a trial, this is a criminal conviction. No one is questioning that it could be done by technology. A Monthly Travelcard for zones 1-2 (inner London) is 134.80 (US$169.45, 150.96) For commutes, especially the suburban crowd, transit is essentially free as to user, as its paid for by the employer, and the income is untaxed by the government. (England) Hi, I got a fare evasion summoning me to court, and Id like to know if theres a possible out of court settlement option from tfl as Im not trying to stain my record. While the number of 15 km trips will be less sensitive to if a trip cost 0 or 0.5 or 1. On social fares, as on many other socioeconomic issues, it is useful for Americans to see how things work in countries with high income compression and low inequality under the aegis of center-left governments. Based on the statistics received with those means, the general pot gets distributed among the different operators. The monthly pass users are the majority of transit users, at least in a city with good fares to encourage lots of people to use it. I really appreciate it. Like the time an older African-American woman got pissed off about younger African-American woman having a White boyfriend and decide to take it out on me, subjecting me to big rant on why African-American women can only really be sexually pleased by African-American men while hitting me with a plastic bottle. The total cost of the new patrol program is $56 million in the first year, escalating by 8% annually thanks to a pre-agreed pay hike scale. throw pav at, but I was very modestly paid except having excellent medical, and benefits like the travel card and lunch vouchers tooagain, one paid 50% of face value which was typically the price of the Menu du Jour; most regular working Parisians use these for their lunch, and they are even valid at boulangeries for sandwiches etc (but you dont get any change if you dont spend up to the face value of the coupon). But this meant Caltrain (or employers) had no data on actual usage. My solicitorhas been extremelyprofessional and his confidence has put my mind at rest. Good lord! TfL will only be getting costs in court (120), they will be making probably twice that setting out of court and will do less work to get it or even more if people offer to pay However Sydney had a horrendously complex British style system, and worse buses and ferries were different (and it was intended to integrate everything), and eventually they couldnt do it under the contract constraints (it was part of the reason they went bust). It may be possible to have some legal advice without charge. The whole look at the poor person stealing bread, dont mind the banker stealing $1m. They are hostile to passengers with disabilities, they cost money to maintain, they constrain passenger flow at busy times, and they dont really save money evidently, New Yorks subway fare evasion rate is within the range of Berlin, Munich, and Zurich. On the subway the rate is only 4%, and there is somewhat more revenue loss on buses than on subways. Also, it was valid on everything 24/7 (I understand the rough equivalent pass in London isnt actually valid for weekend use! That was my old home ground, ie. I guess there could be some aspiration to greatness. There are no large groups of transit users versus non-transit users locked in some zero-sum lethal fight over spoils (which in a US-context is really just the ordinary culture war conflict, transplanted on transit). In reality, this would actually be a cost saving measure because any system to collect fares, be that fare gates or proof of payment, is very expensive, so getting your revenue from taxes instead of fares would actually be cheaper for the residents. Having felt very positive about my initial interaction with the person who took my initial phone call, I immediately booked a consultation the next day., I arrived early and was greeted with smiles and a lot of reassurance. (I did turnstile-jump in Paris once, with a valid transfer ticket that the turnstile rejected, I think because Pariss turnstile and magnetic ticket technology is antediluvian.) Not at all equivalent. I wasnt going to get into that argument but youre right. Finally, monthly passes are regressive for people with very low incomes, and uncertain cash flows, as they may simply not be able to make bulk purchases. But Q4 is why you need the PERCEPTION of enforcement., Now I say perception here because THATS WHAT MATTERS. about improving efficiency etc that has been utterly discredited. Its really self-enforcing and does not need the extremely irritating British price-engineering. In cases where longer term avoidance of fares in suspected, for example using someone elses reduced fare Oyster Card over a period of time, Transport for London (TFL) may want to interview you under caution. Im not sure about the Lokalbanan. I mention it because it brings up awkward issues of those subsidies: do they extend to these private entities? No one will jump a fare gate 10 feet in front of uniformed police officer. Fare is split between the different agencies. Thoroughly recommend! The Wiki section on France is truly pathetic (not worth publishing or reporting but I am sure it was): A 2009 study found that the share of immigrants in the population has no significant impact on crime rates once immigrants economic circumstances are controlled for, while finding that unemployed immigrants tend to commit more crimes than unemployed non-immigrants.[83] A study by sociologist Farhad Khosrokhavar, director of studies at the EHESS, found that Muslims, mostly from North African origin, are becoming the most numerous group in [French prisons].[84][85] His work has been criticized for taking into account only 160 prisoners in 4 prisons, all close to northern Paris where most immigrants live. The bottom line of the Pew study is that commuters who are able to use the Key pay one of the lowest per-trip costs among major transit agencies, while those who cant are forced to pay one of the highest fares a particularly egregious example of what many economists call the poor tax. In terms even an econo-rationalist (rational plan, Martin Kolk ) should understand: it works best when it is nearly frictionless. If I am riding home from work and I stop at a bookstore, thats an extra fare, but its also an extra peak trip. Thatcher was pathologically psycho about it. To you and others, it seems to be narrowly econometric efficiency and my experience is that it is anathema to passenger experience or satisfaction, and not least to the ease and functionality of transit in a big city. Its funny that the US is all about making things run like the private sector. It is not like we are arguing about some fantasy scenarios, I am just saying that the West could adopt systems more similar to the East (where it evidently works very well). Because the truth is that ANYONE will fare evade, its just for these people it is a conscious (or almost-conscious) act based on a bunch of questions they are running through in their head:. I then received a letterfrom Tfl saying that I was summoned to court forfare evasion. Tear down these faregates. In Vancouver, Cubic lobbying and a New Right campaign about fare evasion forced TransLink to install faregates on SkyTrain, and when the faregate project had predictable cost overruns, the campaigners took that as evidence the agency shouldnt get further funding. Unfortunately, the problem of indifference to monthlies on urban rail is common around the Anglosphere. For the far right and the far left, transit is a social service for poor people rather than a general transportation service in the United States. In fact I use my employer-subsidized subway season ticket precisely in this manner. But heres the thing, this new letter writer had not done it but had merely looked at the website and made those conclusions, and not actually selected times and routes and actual tickets. As to the rest of your post, it is pure econometric thinking of the kind that gives me a headache. This makes sense when people pay a fare, but many (if not most) users have unlimited monthly passes. And if occasional users see how much cheaper a monthly card is, they are more likely to think about adopting more regular transit use. Most months have a holiday in them, and there may also be a sick or vacation day thrown in. Try cutting the breakeven point to something starting with a 3 instead. Instead of forever delaying spending money today for appropriate infrastructure that will serve the city for ages, they have constantly convinced themselves and the politicians they can play these games with the travelling public. This is hard to accept for our (moderate) right out of principle, but they now seem to be listening to solid arguments for operational efficiency. Every commute brims over with aggro. There are likely to be cultural differences, so it is possible that in most American cities, it makes sense to have some POP officials. If convicted, you will: If Transport for London believes that you have committed a criminal offence, we may decide to prosecute you. In Paris everyone I knew used the Metro and most would have had a monthly card; and thus this is by far the dominant group in Paris with non-users being a pretty small minority and there was no class war over this issue. Solano Verde Water District. And Ive never seen a normal cop using a rifle. And Herbert, arent you German? That doesnt pay for itself. Yeah, this makes sense. It is very likely that your employer paid some part, and, depending on the size of the enterprise, it is a discount. Germany..Eberswalde.Berlin.1204%. > And the S-Bahn gets subsidies because of lower suburban ridership, same as the RER/Transilien. Finally, monthly passes are regressive for people with very low incomes, and uncertain cash flows, as they may simply not be able to make bulk purchases.. To the passengers, this friction is invisible I buy tickets on the BVG app but theyre equally valid on the S-Bahn, even on S-Bahn-only trips. The new purely-commercial companies will naturally cherrypick only the busiest most lucrative routes. I was facedwith the prospect of receiving a hefty fine and a criminal record. https://pedestrianobservations.com/2019/10/24/numerology-in-transportation/#comment-67419. In particular off-peak travel could be way cheaper with price differentiation, and would definitely have a progressive social impact. Because the higher your passenger-to-visible-check ratio is, the lower your casual evasion will be.. What would you like to know ? Why not try to minimize the average cost of a trip in the system instead? Has Jacob Rees-Mogg ever used London Underground? OK, youve nit-picked one thing from that report. As someone with a lot at stake and was extremely anxious about the outcome of my case, the final result was better than what I was expecting. Put in full size, theyll tailgate. @Sassy: If subsidized transit leads to people moving further out and leading more car oriented lives, it could even increase transportation costs, as people saved money on housing by moving to a further out area, but end up needing a car for many non-commute trips.. While I agree with pretty much everything in this post, I think encouraging monthly passes is a mistake. So, you have to swipe-in AND swipe-out. Japans railway privatization and broken up was also said as for the purpose of crushing railway union. Passed a law to forbid one penny of government money going toward Eurostar or HS1 (part of the reason it took 12 years after Eurostar began, and turned into one of the textbook cases of PPP/PFI gone wrong). Another data shows, as of 2017-2018, among people using elderly traveler subsidy across all the public transit system in Hong Kong, only 0.11%, or 144 people, are actually abusing it. We operate as a form of "legal triage" where commenters can guide posters towards resolving issues themselves or towards an appropriate professional. As I pointed out in a recent post, Melun which is on the other side of the river Seine to Fontainebleu about 45km from central Paris, has 50,000 residents at density 5,000/km2. I was summoned to court for fare evasion by TFL, for using my fathers Freedom Pass which I was guilty of. The consequences for me as regards my right to work in the UK were extremely high, and so this situation was cause for lots of stress. In both Paris and Stockholm, the monthly pass is flat regionwide, an intentional program of subsidizing regular riders in the suburbs, which are on average poorer than the city. Furthermore, their consultation fees, in comparison to several others was also the most honest Id come across. But the real agenda is to crush the unions However, turnstiles are not necessary for this. Or elect Corbyn.). Some people got so infuriated that they went and sat in the First Class carriages (!) The issue is how to get those who live in it to use transit for more of their travel. Taken to court by TFL for fare evasion under contrary to byelaw 17. I had been using it for a few weeks when I was stopped by aticket inspector. 2) BART has had teen-gang problems, where a dozen kids hop the fare gates, rob/assault the passengers, and leave en-mass at the next stop over the gates before any law enforcement appears. Efficiency is usually both environmental and fair. The third problem could be fixed if cities actually worked to provide public restrooms either free or at a nominal cost outside every station. A fully We discussed everything that happened and even thought was a hard case he built a strong defense we the results could not have been better. January 2019, Really great service and very professional. On many buses, drivers just let it go and let passengers board without paying, especially if nearly all passengers are connecting from the subway and therefore have already paid, as on the B1 between the Brighton Beach subway station and Kingsborough Community College or on the buses to LaGuardia. As you can imagine, any criminal record on a 27-year-olds CV would be detrimental to many future opportunities. Terribly sorry. My fare dodges in Berlin happened once before I got monthlies and once on my way to the airport on my current trip, in a month when I didnt get a monthly since I was only in Berlin 6 days. Most people move further from the city to save on housing costs, but that is balanced by commuting costs and time. N.A (April 2017), Stay up to date with Criminal Law with BSB Solicitors, BSB solicitors, 2 John Street, Passengers need to swipe 46 times in a 30-day period to justify getting a monthly pass rather than a pay-per-ride. Debatable, given the total lack of bike infrastructure and the fact that on the bus it was a 40 minute to an hour journey involving a transfer between buses. Regardless, its S$120 per month without discounts, whereas the longest single-ride fare is $2.08 (link 1, link 2), for a breakeven point of 58 rides a month for trips longer than about 40 km. AR15 is what you mean. Perhaps the approach shouldnt be to offer DISincentives for riders who dont have passes but rather to offer positive incentives for more people to use electronic, cash-free payment methods even if they fall outside the middle-class demographic. But from a nation that does allows compilation of such statistics: A report by Statistics Denmark released in December 2015 found that 83% of crimes are committed by individuals of Danish origin (88% of the total population), 14% by individuals of non-Western descent and 3% by those of non-Danish Western descent. You can add NZ to that list, so it is a perfect correlation with immigrant nations. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. This is just a very obvious example of many on how backwards transit is organized in most western countries. If thats something I do often, most of those will be free trips under the 45-swipe regime, regardless of whether I lose a few workdays in a given month. London has monthly / yearly travelcards, but not on the capping system you have to pre-purchase them and theyre valid for the month / year. Its not about catching habitual offenders. Ref: Brief history of the Paris metro. Ive had fare inspection before on a 1 am commuter train out of Paddington before. Webthe district court abused its discretion in denying his motion to amend the complaint to add a claim for punitive damages. Even though the Key card offers pay-per-ride functionality in addition to calendar passes, its $10 up-front cost and the difficulty of maintaining a payment balance force economically-marginal riders to use cash instead. https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2019/11/public-transportation-security-safety-laws-protests-equity/602212/ Because they wont embarrass a habitual, but theyll act like a gameshow buzzer highlighting to everyone else that CASUAL evasion is possible when that person gets away with it!, But you DO need enforcement, its just your dirty secret is that you dont really give a shit whether you catch anyone. WebAppearance, the Court will schedule a Settlement Conference to occur within ninety (90) days of the filing of the Notice of Limited Appearance. The transit agency is not an individual who is broken by being mugged of $100; it should think in terms of its own finances, not in terms of deterrence. its the poor who suffer from more from dirty streets and parks. Which brings us to casuals, Casual fare evasion is a thing done by normal people, regardless of age/money/class. Typically, trips are charged by distance and are regarded as fair by the majority of users. Thats your kind of economic efficiency. London has a card like HKs but no one would call it a travel bargain being at minimum twice as expensive as Paris. Indeed if you can get most of your passengers/city reaching two yeses then your casual evasion will be well below a level worth caring about.. The (old) UK system was the opposite of frictionless and it used to raise my temperature from rubbing up against it (not in a lacivious or frottage way! Your use of induced implies travellers think how they can rack up long extended trips just because they dont cost anything! Those casual fare evader mental questions are: 1) Do I already have, or can I buy a ticket right now? And you can go even lower with barrier-free systems like Germany's, FYI, I just came across this report (June 2021) on the fare crisis in the UK, as they come out of pandemic. Id be extremely surprised. In fact, all of these have had a more permissive stance that has been incrementally put in place in NYC over the past 2-3 years, and anyone who rides the train has seen it. https://www.transitlink.com.sg/PSdetail.aspx?ty=art&Id=76, https://www.sbstransit.com.sg/transport/trpt_fares_concession.aspx. A different reason to dislike monthly passes is that they work against people using bikes-walking-transit (and for that matter, cars) in different combinations. Again, pure nonsense. These activities are really not the same fare evasion really is something to be discourage, just not with batons. Not just because its important to get all the revenue you can, but if its easy to fare evade then everyone will do it as, no one really sees it as a crime in their own minds. it is clear that you dont have any experience of very well run transit city, such as in East Asia, where rich and poor regularly alike use transit. London absolutely does have monthly (and annual) passes. The German one is to make it easy to follow the law and then use enforcement to not make it so easy to break it. Answered in 5 minutes by: Solicitor: Jo C. Jo C., Barrister Category: UK Law Satisfied Customers: 82,725 Experience: Over 5 years in practice. Plus, there are airport surcharges. cheaper transit promoting sprawl. MS (July 2017), I would like to place on record my sincere thanks for the highly professional and thorough service that I received from BSB Solicitors. Iwould highly recommend BSB Solicitors to anyone in the future. Its now got the stage where in London trains are much more lightly loaded on Mondays and Fridays. This is why the big % of habituals are male. Which surprised quite a few people that night. It is advisable to seek the representation of a solicitor in this situation. 4) If I do it, do I THINK Im likely to get caught?, The more yes answers they reach, the LESS LIKELY they are to do it. Which doesnt make it any more tolerable but makes it understandable and an intractable problem, only ameliorating with the climb out of poverty and marginality. Viewed through a regional city perspective JNR was bad, the neglect of infill alone, I counted 15+ new stations on the Sanyo mainline alone all of them getting 2000 riders a day, and only a minority where in Hanshin area! With the Paris flat-fare system and immense freedom of Carte Orange, and of course that in almost every single aspect the system outperformed LU and was cheaper. HL February 2021, I highly recommend BSB solicitors, they are professional and responsive. WebFare evasion from tfl which led to a court summoning. Thats a significant consideration for regions with large income disparities. Of course it will. I think TfL is roughly in that area as well lumping both the Tube and the buses; sure, the Tube breaks even, but London has a way higher bus/rail ridership ratio than Paris or Berlin. I dont see the benefit of making these trips really cheap for monthly pass users, while very expensive for everyone else. Webtfl fare evasion settle out of court; tfl fare evasion settle out of court. The train companies are much more rigorous in going to the courts, mainly because the money involved in long distance commuting is so much higher. put in half-height gates and theyll jump them. policy. Passport-size photos, applications, visiting the ticket office. Its a comparable region to Greater Tokyo (the most common Itto Sanken borders) which includes a lot of farmland and is predominantly wilderness. Much less a whole restaurant. Cities in both Germany and France, for example, are even trialling free public transport, with huge increases in passenger rates recorded. Beyond population density, efficiency is an important reason why transit is so cheap in East Asia. Of course the Oyster card tech (copied from Hong Kongs Octopus) could have fed the Brits propensity to burden their fare systems with all kinds of conditional time and zoning regulations that would have allowed them to painlessly pump up the cost to the customer. Also, a friend who is former department of health mentioned there is a churro sweatshop where the churro supply for several of these vendors these are made, and which is without working bathrooms, which they had raided in the past. In the urban German-speaking world, everyone with a valid fare can walk onto a bus, tram, or train without crossing fare barriers or having to pay a driver. And incidentally I totally reject your repeated assertion that low fares, or flat fares, to the outer zones of big cities, encourages sprawl, because it does the opposite (it will encourage TOD around the stations) and is much more likely to entice them out of their cars.

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