In the Davison, we have Saturn, Moon, Pluto, and Venus Conjunct in the 12th house. Im trying to determine the karmic lessons we need to learn from this. hello, nice article Dawn. He is a pisces/cap/aquar with cap moon in 12th house. I am reasonably happy in my 3+ year marriage, and yet, I still miss my former boyfriend desperately sometimes. I live in a kind of constant daydream /illusion of being near my beloved ghost I know this is not truth , but I dont know how I could do without. yeah, i think we didnt invest much efforts in getting/staying togetherhowever, when I tried to pursue more, I felt as if I was more needy and I cared more about this relationship, as his respose to my efforts was quite blank and gruff. Our situation was kind of complicated. Because thats what it feels like! Pluto, Sun, Venus & Mercury in the 12th/Virgo. Any insight you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Im glad youre enjoying it. Love for loves sake wont fly with the 12th house. Composite Sun in 1 st House. I am in a relationship with a man for 14 years in which we have an extremely strong synastry including my saturn conjunct his venus by degree, his saturn/node conjunct my sun/chiron by degree. You need a synastry reading to make sense of all this. Mysterious things attract you. Please forgive me, there are much to read and ask, Your inputs will be very much appreciated. Most of my relationships are like that . The Sun person sees in the 11th house person someone, who they can spend pleasant time with. Besides synastry, the twelfth house in a composite chart can also be telling when it comes to karmic relationships. I really appreciate your take on the 12th house; it definitely resonates as true, from my experience. If we do things out of fear or for security, and we dont listen to the call to step onto our proper path in life, we are serving the ego instead of the soul. I have a heavily involved 12th house with someone, in synastry, sun and sun/moon in each other natal and composite.shows Sun/Mar/Saturn. let go or fight for it? 8th and 12th house seem to have haunted me for most of my life , Your email address will not be published. Indeed, I felt the fear trampling along the edge with fear of insecurity. Then you have to put the natal charts around the composite, and there are a number of other techiques depending on what questions are asked: coalescent charts, draconic charts, etc. We also have 3 composite planets and an asteroid in house 8. His north node in his 12th in pisces which means he will have to travel from a more material existence to a spiritual one in his lifetime, but that could take another 20 years. this is honestly so beautiful to read. I dont know if what we have count as a heavy 12th house but we have our north nodes in the 12th with vesta in virgo, and our south nodes in the 6th with the vertex in pisces. hi dawn:) In Astrology, the planet Venus represents compassion, cooperation, beauty, and the Arts. A trauma might have triggered you before, making you a reserved person now. I noticed you dont offer composite readings. You could unknowingly absorb all types of pain from the collective unconscious, making it difficult for you to be a member of the world. The Moon squares Mercury and Venus in the 9th, Pluto and Saturn in the 3rd, and squares the MC. thanks Dawn! Together, they like to dive deeper and deeper into unknown and mysterious beliefs, cultures, territories, and ideas. My nn is conjunct his sun and mercury. He told me he had butterflies I did too.his nn is conjunct my ascendant. The Anti-Vertex, on the other hand, is located in the opposite house of the Vertex (the 11 th , 12 th , 1 st , 2 nd , or 3 rd houses), which relate to personal concerns . Its pretty rare. I am 38 years old and have a Scorpio 12th house stellium (Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, and Neptune) so I am painfully, and blissfully, intimately aware of this energy. Thank You so much for Your answer! composite moon and saturn are in fifth house. (I have my moon in Scorpio in the 12th house along with Saturn and Pluto). Lilith in Synastry. Sun conjunct Neptune is a very difficult thing to live with in a composite chart. thanks!! The composite AC is Scorpio Pluto in 12th (only planet) and Mars in 8th. so we find the True in each other. We have met up a few times since then, but our feelings for each other were immediate and are exceptionally strong even without the benefit of an active physical relationship. The relationship has been on & off, again and again for 28 years. I had to spend years unlearning what love is to me and settle with how individuals differ in what we value in a relationship. However, what happens when we join together as a couple/entity is reflected in the composite chart. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. I think that your article is quite amazing, but for those of us who are making these relationships work for us I wish you would have given some cases in which it can work. our composite mars-venus conjunction opposes composite uranus, sun, mercury all conjunct from seventh house. They help us understand that our capacity to love is its own reward. We feel it has a nebulous, yet mysteriously powerful influence on our lives when we have planets there, even though we cant quite fathom the type of influence it wieldsare we being seduced to a precipitous cliff by external forces, or are the demons within driving us to the edge? And I read from Stephen Arroyo that it is so important to see the traditional rulers of the signs , for example in Aquarius is more important to see Saturn than Uranus. What should i do? He also has 12th house stellium in his own natal chart in Scorpio. Thank you in advance. We fall, and find the world. VERY-VERY SORRY! In this relationship, you tend to agree to a no-obligation arrangement from the start. Have you any thoughts or words to share on the 12th house commonalities we have individually, and what impact it lends to us as a couple? I felt (sorry to say) that he is the big love of my life! Haunting Thank you for reading and I hope this story helps reveal more about the 12th house in composites. An ex-lover and I share composite Sun/Mercury in the 12th. We are still friends and well always love each other. But thank you for helping me face reality. Im sorry, Kyveli, but this is too complex a question to answer in the space here. Its difficult because boundaries dissolve and we find it hard to maintain our separateness, which is necessary in a healthy relationship. And here is why: my sun, mercury and venus and chiron is in th e 12th natal house. I would very much like to ask a question about Sun opposition Neptune in a composite especially if it is found as double whammy in synastry.From what I have read from your articles that particular dynamic is extremely difficult to get a grasp of.However I am wondering what kind of effect would Pluto in the 12th trine Sun would have on that aspect in the composite which is also double whammy in synastry.Especially since Pluto is the ruler of the Ascendant and Jupiter,co-ruler of Pisces hits that angle.My question has to do with whether in this case the 1st house plays a heavy role in the chart and balances the chaotic power of Sun-Neptune or whether it is so fused with piscean energy that the plutonian core searching is not enough to get through the neptunian fog.I know that you should see the whole chart and that the question is a bit absurd but I think there is a pattern here and I would really like to know even your smallest bit of opinion on the matter.Thank you in advance. Thank You for Your answer and best regards from Hungary! This is a complicated question and needs a subtle analysis in the chart, but on the whole, planets in the first house side of the angle center around the development of a healthy sense of Self, of ego, whereas planets on the 12th house side of the angle will be dealing with karma surrounding ego choices, and the planets will take on a more archetypal energy and effect. i imagine these aspects can point to a past life where there was dominance in the work field isuees? I have composite sun and moon in house 12 with my brother. But someone who tells you they love you every day and tries to break up with you every month is clearly not. His Neptune conjuncts my SN orb 003 When we split up I cried every day for a month. I might even say hes one of the closest people to me. Thank you Dawn for this very interesting article. Maybe someone else on the page will have an answer for you. Just as the Sun is the Luminary of the day, the Moon is the Luminary of the night. "Composite Chart, Midpoint- method (2)". However it can create a feeling of fate sometimes, since it's also the house of soulmates and psychic connections. My wife and I have composite moon in the 12 house (aquarius). @ more very amazing thing IF this is still not enough proof: My Moon and Mars conjucts his North Node (fairly tight 2-3 degrees conjuction) His NOrth Node conjucts His own Pluto (good old Pluto might just kill me with his north node conjuction (i wonder if that is the plan here?) Through counseling she has discovered that her pattern of deception and maintaining an emotional distance from me stems from childhood. Dawn, thank you for writing this article. Fame has its roots in the 12th because that is where we can serve as an example of a prime archetypewe can embody the zeitgeist of our age. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. MUCH APPRICIATED- i am forever greatful for your insights. I am so sad because I would have never meet him IF my husband and this man, and his wife would not become friends with him in church, ( I did not go to church for a while so I would not meet them!) i dont know, looking at this chart, it has completely different emphasis, from my regular composite. scares me a bit. This can happen in composites of unrequited love, where one person loves another who doesnt know he or she exists. how this would manifest? Natal Sun in Gemini and Venus in Cancer in the 12th, and Venus is conjunct my Cancer ASC. Its more complex than just the composite positions. mars is trine composite sun, pluto, uranus jupiter and neptune- but square moon saturn. Thank You for Your answer and best regards from Hungary! I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. But on the whole the midpoint chart is a chart about the essence and purpose of a relationship and the Davison chart is more about the external realities of a relationship. Though many of the things you have said have been true, and there are challenges, I know we are committed to knowing each other and spending this precious time together. This will tell you the energy sounding the ending. Me and my friend have composite sun conj. What if the composite chart has two strong stelliums: one is made up of the outer planets in the 12th, the other Sun/Mercy/Venus/Juno in the 10th (and moon and mars are in the 8th). As Jeff Buckley puts it, hes a tear that hangs inside my soul forever. Thank you for this series of articles! My daughter and I have a 12th house Sun-Moon conjunction (in Cancer) in our composite. :In a composite chart: What does it mean when both people have juno in the 12 House? Thank you for your insight. One or two aspects, especially in composite, do not carry the story. When composite Lilith is placed in the eighth house of the composite chart, this makes the relationship between the two people very intense. These individuals are highly empathetic, but they want to protect their privacy, and they are not easy to open up.

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