so admin i just wanted to knw that how could it b possible??? Get rid of the caste system, because all chamars like me & my family will still not get the benefits as the jatts do! I also belong to a chamar caste n i also proud of on my caste. tum bhikari ho sale bheekh hi magna aata h tumhe .kam se kam hum log kisi se beekha manng kar to nahi khate tum log jaise. so love all do good .their karma of hate / abuses / feeling bad of others shall return to them only in form OF THEIR bhagya . Unfortunately a majority of Indians dont think like me.. Thats why India will never take a step forward on being equal! Ambilkar. I fully agree with you. Samsung LN52B750For individuals who loathe Samsungs red Touch involving Color, the Samsung LN52B750 is actually a stylish solution, with a small tint with translucent blue in the bottom of a frame. so all those who are sikh are sc only . Yes absolutely. can u add (samplay) name 11 BIHAR 11021 CHAMAR CHOUDHARY 11 BIHAR 11022 CHAMAR KUSHWAHA 11 BIHAR 11023 CHAMAR PASWAN 11 BIHAR 11024 CHAMAR . We dont need impostors or moonlighters please. They are basically tanners and leather workers, considered untouchables and thus kept outside the Hindu society. Why waste breath on freaks who have lost their former status because chamars are rising faster above them. Hmne pta hai ki sbb equal hai. First one was to satisfy the hunger of body (for food) and second langar was to act as platform for social change. All they bang on about is jatt this and jatt that. So in a nut shell to you, reservation is wrong and only the jobs should be given on merit alone and thus corruption will be reduced by a threefold. Upper class people used the Jatts against their brothers. And it does not necessarily lead to increase in corruption because when Scheduled officers are appointed they often are not connected to their political masters or higher officers, who are often from the higher castes often either Brahmins,kshatriya or Viasha; and thus if they were corrupt they have no higher person to protect them. Klair surname is a Jatt surname and does not belong to any community other than Sache Pasha himself ! NO, it doesnt. gotra of father is gotra of son MOST OF GOTRAS R SAME IRRESPECTIVE JOB DUTIES PERFORMED WHETHER FARMING , TEACHING ,HUNTING , FISHING ,FIGHTING,TRADING OR ELSE . Learn how to treat people like humans. It is indeed I know a somebody else with same surname -Heer- definitely also chamar name. Uttar Pradesh Government adds 17 castes, including Kashyap, Mallah, Kumhar, Rajbhar, Prajapati & others in the list of Scheduled Castes. kainth, johal, virdi, and jassal are also jatt, not sure about the others. Todays TV channels are full of this crap as Brahmins are now using the new techonology available today to propgate the old system and you can see all the imbocils listening to safron clad gurus propagating nothing more than what I have said above clothed as religion. The truth is the truth. Holy palace of Gotra bhatoa is situated at Pandoga ,Distt UNA in HP. Take business and economy over 95% of the business, trade, finance and economy is contolled by the Baniya/vaishas. !Please Thora jeya jaldi kar deyo add evi chamara dehi naam ya please thorha jeya jaldi!!! They helped to capture thousands of hindi speaking soldiers mostly Chamars of UP and Bihar who revolted against Britishers in Lahore Cantonment. 75 % kota genral walea da aaa .jisne kuch krna usne 75% mein sb kuj kr lena .aur jisne kuch ni krna usse 25% mein kuch ni krna..aur baat krte ho rsvartions ki 25% kota sc st hena.jino 25% mein kuch ni kr skte wo 75% mein b kuch ni kr skte.jihna ne kuch krna hunda na oh cast ni dekhde na resrvationssrf apne goal val thyan dinde t aaa t ohnu If he see himself as a jatt then he is endorsing the caste system; yet if he is Sikh he must reject the caste. Even Dr Ambedkar saw this for himself. I respect chammars .. Delete this name.. My mother belong from chammar family. Sabne. They recognised that the untouchables had suffered a lot over many centuries untold and it was time to integrate them into the fabric of the Indian society, which is why untouchability was outlawed. Yaha blog me likhne ki himmat hai bas kisi chamar k saamne bol ke bata fir dekh kaisi sewa hoti teri, teri maa dea lun kteeda tu saliya punjab a teri bund paad diyange saliya kuttiyaese krke tusi musliya ton bund kutone a sala dulla bhainchod, Beta ab sach bata tum chamar se chidte kyu ho kyuki tumhare purvajo se tumne seekha tha ye cast badi ye chotti or ab jab vahi chotti cast goverment jobs me har jangah tumse aage hote haii tumhe chamar ko salute marna padta usko namaste krni padti chamar k aage jhukna pad raha hai islie rona hai tumhe :p lol verna beta ho kya tum kali kali shakal wale chamar se kahi bhi to aage nahi ho tum :3 moke pe chamar ki tatti tak khaloge tum, Kiya janam se tumhare maathe ya peeth par bhagwan ne koi stamp lgakr bheja hai kiya.ki tum bhraman hai ya jaati ka naam likhkr janam liya hai, ya blood ka Color red ke alawa or ho tujhme color ka blood bta aise bolne se koI mahan ni banta mahan banta hai achhi soch se bhagwan ne sabko ek samaan bnaya hai is liye likhne se pehle soch smjhkr likhna chahiye, stfu moron LOL just cause youre a chamar youre gonna be talking shit on jatts! I have seen people face turned pale and a grin of disgust when told that I am a CHAMAR. I dont believe that the upper caste are to blame. SO creat good n happyness TO enjoy the fruit. Jan 1989. Further more many chamars, who may have been brahmins, were rulers and as they lost their power were also thrown out and outcasted. Can you please add more surnames such as Heer, Banga, Bhardwaj etc. My paternal side is Maratha and my Great grandmother was an Afghan Pashtun Sikh, My grandmother belongs to Jaat heritage from Gill tribe and my biological mother is Bedi, from khatri tribe. It is promoting the caste system with all its ugliness. One is Caste Watch UK: http://www.castewatchuk.org/ Ranga, I am yet to meet any Momis who are Chamar and would be interested to meet any that claim to be. Who said we all come from sikh No there not dumbass. Mahatma Gandhi, Dr.B.R.Ambedkar, Nelson Mandela but to mention a few achieved change for man kind. (Oh yes, we breed, so there is a possibility that you are commenting here and someone from us might be doing your wife/daughter/sister. Vinod Kumar Thanks for contributing. This is really because this Samsung HDTV includes a FilterBright aboard which lowers reflection by just day not to mention glare from night as you move the night and day settings will be customized that will optimize images per viewing conditions and time. Regards.. Casteism is a practice that Hindu society will never remove because its a a part of their religion. There is nothing to be proud or ashamed of your so called caste because it is not in your hands in which caste you are born.Why cannot indians understand that they were slaves for. Jai Hind, Jai Guru Ravidas Ji. You have a problem in India where corruption has got worse due to the fact that for a very long time scheduled caste people were not allowed to Be in a position of power and since the laws changed and they were given senior positions in India corruption has trebled as a lot,of these people came from poor backgrounds and have taken advantage of this .There was always corruption in India but it is the worst it has ever been. Medal and parihar are also chamar surname. there is no bad if Jatt people proud of their caste history. Im sad to even say our community but their will be no other way to make you understand. The chamaars have stolen higher caste names to deceive others who come in contact with them. When Guru Nanak, after discovering the truth, told the Indian people that Brahminism is a lie and spent all his life speaking against the caste system until eventually the baton was passed to Guru Govind Singh to destroy Brahminism and its evil caste system once and for all by creating the khalsa, ie a casteless society. [18], In the first half of the early 20th century, the most influential Chamar leader was Swami Achutanand, who founded the anti-Brahmanical Adi Hindu movement, and portrayed the lower castes as the original inhabitants of India, who had been enslaved by Aryan invaders. History will through people like you in the dustbin. Those names that have been identified as also jatt surnames should be catagorised as such. When I was growing up I thought surnames were only for identification. Promoting your caste. I personally know some contact of Caste Watch UK and other community member who may be able to support you. When kingdoms fell, people from SCs identified themselves by saying which dynasty they belonged to ie Soni Chohan Sidhu Johal. Our Bhagats & Gurus done so much for us and know ravidassias are doing the opposite. i love you guru ravidas ji and BALLAN wale guru ji. I cant say Im Jatt without someone labelling me as a believer of the caste system. This is what the Khalsa was all about. Thats pretty hilarious from where I stand. what happened to mike gallagher? 10/09/1993 Read the history book The wonder that was India. History of the Chamar Dynasty : From Sixth Century A.D. to Twelfth Century A.D - book by Raj Kumar; Page on Chamar community at wikipedia; Chamar Hindu caste - Page on www.britannica.com The Gurus suffered greatly, some were even executed by muslims on the advice of brahmins advisors, because they were speaking up for the truth. In current scenario the most of the power is distributed among sc st obc Now tell me who is corrupt logically. Lol, JATTTTTTTT YAAAA JATTTTTTTTTTT A am a chumar n have always had jatt friends, I have never felt my caste was an issue for them as they follow sikhi n Sikhism is all about eradicating caste systems. Surnames (Basra, Jassal and Kainth- are Tonk Kshatriya, Kalsi & Sahota are Ramgarhiya Tarkhan and Bhardwajs are Brahmins) in the above lists of castes of CHAMARS are absolutely wrong. My last name is dadra its not in this list . Ricky you need to get your facts right by doing research as to why this has happened. Sikhs from our community have contributed so much to Sikhism that they had no need to do what ravidassias are doing today. Thanks jai guru ravidass ji maharaj, rall,jhamat,jakhu,ladhar and chawla,loi,kalsi also in chamar community, i believe no one beats jats and they r the best, lol you silly jatts are not ware that a law in the uk against caste discrimination has been passed,which means we will have our day in the court. Can anybody tell punjabi surname Degan comes under which caste ??? The Chamars community are also a martial race and its members are the citizen of India. Out of 100 the first talented person is Dr. B. R. Ambedkar. Account No. 1 powerful caste of world. according to past and present time we can see warrior skills and bravery in jatt race . The Chamars are as Indian citizens as you are. He is not really a sikh like you and me but but a hindu who parades himself as a charlalan sikh. (your previous generations, you dont even have balls to touch us as we rule the govt jobs, politics, policy making, parliament and even the vote bank to make or break the Indian Govt.). Whoever made this doesnt know anything bout last names. Chandigarh aao mai dikhata hu brahmin bhi aaj jamaadaar ka kaam kar raha hai. We are a group of people who have just come off the back of hundreds of years of oppression, where our political and social rights have been impeded upon, our religious freedoms denied, where we have been persectued and suffered genocide at the hands of several ruling dynastys. Shegokar. If you are urged to say jat again you are betraying the your religion and the Gurus who died for you. Tum logo ko to kissi ko ganda kehne ka haq hi nahi hai, rajan ji aap chamar ko asudh kah rahe ho apani jat to batao taki hame bhi pata chale ki sudh jat koun hota hai jab tum paida hote ho to sabse pahale wo aurat tumhe chhuti hai jise tumne asudh kaha to rajan ji ap jis din paida huye the ushi din ashudh ho gaye the phir bhi apne ap ko sudh kah ho so your caste can not be better than chamar because Jo apane upko badi jati ka batata hai wo sabse nich hota hai. Im a chamar, and would like me last name added on the list, its Nar. Under sikh rule Mazabhi won battle of Afghanistan .Since they belong to lower caste the glory never been taught to new generation . ji mennu koi dass sakda SOHANG da ki matlab aa ????? include. So i dont believe this. max. Stop using our last names you ugly fucks. Thus its better to keep quiet about your caste. I agree with you 100%! God does not ask about social class or birth; you must find your true home. , (ST), (SC) (OBC) . Sindhollu, Chindollu. Bains surname vi add kr deyo pls. Aside with its eco-friendly CONTRIBUTED backlight, it has the benefit of several some other amazing benefits, including superior DLNA online and a thorough Content My husband is chumar. Summan surname is also a jatt surname. 10 Rows 20 Rows 50 Rows 100 Rows 250 Rows 300 Rows. He is a typical Jatt sikh, who does not understand that being a jatt Sikh is a contradiction in terms. If you think Im exaggerating, read up and open your eyes. I dont think of it as my caste I think of it as my heritage, that is all.. My stepmother is a maan and she is from Ramghriya tribe. Fact is a fact and truth is truth. THESE RESERVATIONS ARE CREATING A DISSATISFACTION WITH THE OTHER BRILLIANT STUDENTS OF OTHER CASTE AND IN THIS WAY THEY ARE DEPRIVED OF THEIR RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN OF INIDIA, Gothwal This may seem usual to us today.But if we go 550 years back in Indian history it was unthinkable for people from low caste to have such an opportunity when they had separate wells in villages for low caste people. Its sad that why some people still call themselves Hindu when in reality they are not. I also belong to you chamar community and not ashamed but respect my Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. even general category has a lot of poor ppl who hav no means. You and all your Jatts should rise to the occasion and destroy castes considerations between the sikhs. No sir, i am not stuck in the past, i was ready and willing to marry out of caste, but the girls family were unwilling. It was formed to promote the interests of Jatav for seeking social upliftment into Kshatriya varna. Dear Sharma, in the first instance you are saying your are a higher cast and can not tell the difference of swearing in a vulgar manner. human is free irrespective of any ism . June 29, 2022 / 1 / 0 / 1 / 0 You cannot be a Jat and also a sikh , because to call yourself a jat you are edorsing the caste system and by calling yourself as a sikh you are rejecting the caste system. and im a chura chamar of dudley road can you people have that courage to end caste system..if you dont have that then this reservation should continue.we people study well upto 12th and score more tham 80 percent but due to casteism in xolleges we are given less marks despite having all talentthen is it fair? Chamar that are followers of Dera Ballan and similar authorities and chamar who havent a clue bout life and religion call themselves Hindu by default always talk about discrimination, chamar identity and all the rest of the nonsense they do, they are the instigators that cause hate and racial abuse amongst all sikh communities.. Why dont they give it a rest, wasnt this the reason they formed their own religion to separate and have their own identity, yet they still go on and on talking the same old sh*t.. im Jatav related to shurdh group many of clans of jatav are rathore ,kuril, punia raidash jatia kashyap shindhe makwal & some others clans etc. Bhisi 3.. Shalhru. Your Hindu masters have kept you low so they can control you, start accepting Sikhi and you will get all your answers. levels as well as accurate designs. No, Jatt is a race, as proven by genetics, Im not going by what the British said asswipe and they only said that as a ploy to use us even more. Pls correct me if m wrong somewhere. Do not vote for the party of your oppressors nor work with them. Bagwan nay insan bnya insano nay ussey caste and community may divide krdiya sasy badi insaniyathey yaarobe proud we are human beings .. JAI HIND! reservation is a right ok. or bhai vo sarkar esliue nahi de rhi ki koi ehsaan kar rhi ho lowerclass people par. It is a Brahmin last name. Scheduled Castes at the Cross Roads. A man can add Singh In fact Hindu is no religion. Over the last 5000 years these 15% have had RESERVATION over all power structures and kept the shudras oppressed into servitude in perpetuity. India under brahminism was a close society. Hindu religion again in the hands of the Brahmins. Words like shudar , Achhut . Instead of destrying caste system, they are perpetuating it. Jatav. Ambedkar; however, he remained an aberration in a party dominated by the upper castes. I AM BELONG TO CHAMAR THAT IS THE ROOT OF SANT SHIROMANI SHRI SHRI RAVIDAS JI MAHARAJ . Oh Brahmin if you are born of Brahma, ie God, then why were you not born differently (from us). They fought well but they lost. I you want any type of help regarding Graphic Designing, Video Editing, Video Compositing, 3D Animation, Short Movies etc. In India the Brahmins are only 4% of Indian population; the Thakurs/KShatriyas 6% and the Baniyah/Vaishas 5%. then why is saying, Ik noor say sabh jag upjaa kon bhale kon mande. But accepting the truth will set you free and see reality as it is not what you have been brain washed with. house network by the ethernet dock or link up it in your computer face we are 80% of indian population but. I say to all Indians- wake up you are in the 21st century, get rid of backwardness.Imagine India without caste. Clearly not a very palatable move. ULLU KE PATHE TUJHE JYADA PTA HAI KI BO KAISE RHTE HAI YAA NHI . Raghbir Singh. The only thing Im pissed off about is you morons taking our last names and posting them as your own on this retarded website. I believe everyone should be equal and have equal opportunities but dont fucking steal our last names you pathetic shits. Those chamars who have taken amrit and been baptised are khalsa sikhs. thankyou, lage rao cak de chamar bai bai de maddat karo, Chamar gandi ur asudh caste hai ur vo suchta se nahi rehti hai, Apni suddhta praman hai apke pas, per is traha ki neech hakat karke neechta ke praman diya hai apne. The repetition of caste Hindu history through surnames, cultural symbols, and news media houses is a dangerous process that will leave Dalit Bahujan and Adivasi communities without a home for our existence. Bnde di sbto vaddi zaat.. No matter what, a jatt is a jatt. pls help me mennu koi jana SOHANG da matlab dasso !!!! or area, If we study the Varna system carefully it would be revealed that originally there were only four varnas. hello the great fighter cumunioty of CHAMARS. KALSON is also a chamar surname All those people who work were classified as Sudras . The Guru decided that. We should only judge people according to their actions (Karma). Well it all depends on how people see themselves as. [16], A section of Chamars claimed Kshatriya status as Jatavs, tracing their lineage to Krishna, and thus, associating them with the Yadavs. The other is Dalit Solidality Network: http://dsnuk.org/ Never will change stay real straight GURU RAVI DASS. He gave his teaching to the gurus. be proud of be chamar. thank you. not true at all, Ohh virk jattan da got aa chamara da nii ess lai virk got ktto apni site cho , Sahi aa praa ena ne ta sandhu v chamar bnaa tee. Most commonly observed among Punjabis, Khatris also are Jaat's. Reservation is nice and should b used by needy people of sc st obc caste. Baba Sangat Singh and all the other sikhs at the battle were butchered by the muslims forces. They have nothing left and resent the rise of those who worked for them. load of bull. It is the 15% who control everything, so why blame the poor 85%, who are devoid or power and control. Cant you live like civilised ppl and learn how to respect and integrate, in the end we are Sikhs, so caste is not what we believe or should follow. 1 CENTRAL LIST OF OBCs FOR THE STATE OF UTTAR PRADESH Entry No Caste/Community Resolution No. If you have any comments, please discuss them appropriately here.
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