Nest app was instantaneous in refreshing the status at home. Does anybody know what these might be equivalent to? I am waiting when Nest will make it compatible to Slp98V furnace and I will be glad to replace the iComfort thermostat & the app immediately! I was forced to give up my Nest in the summer when replacing my furnace and air conditioner as the new units required the iComfort thermostat. The following photos might help someone so I’m including them. Components Coils, Heaters, Motors, etc. Now I am just looking for the original wires in the wall. See photo. Icomfort's Owner Satisfaction. The issue you might have is that if your installer used i+ and i-, then you don’t have enough wires. Post photos, respond to polls and access other special features. This is normally controlled by applying 120V AC power to it from the air handler. You may want to get a tech to do that work. Had a nest thermostat which we never liked so we are so happy to have replaced it with Lenox Comfort. Icomfort: 7.5/10 Nest Bedding: 9.1/10. Month/Year Introduced. We decided to replace our old furnace with a Lennox SLP98 with our existing 10yr old Carrier puron single-stage AC unit. 1. It works great for the furnace in heat mode. 5. Return Home – Touch the thermostat again when you get home, and it will restore normal heating and cooling schedules. Then I just connected it as usual but used the traditional terminals instead of the connected ones. Icomfort: Get Yours Now. The Nest is considered a conventional thermostat where each terminal controls a specific component. Dual-fuel capable (iComfort® heat pump only) with two balance points. I’m starting by sniffing their web app using fiddler: https://www.telerik.com/fiddler. Leaving Home – The thermostat will reduce system output and energy use with just a touch. If it were my house the choice would be the i-comfort. I’ve got an email into Ecobee for suggestions but no response yet. Alright, so I did more digging and determined, based on some input from some HVAC pros, that the system I have would actually lose efficiency if I switched to a Nest/Ecobee/other non-Lennox Tstat. Did you advanced with your problem? I am looking to replace the tstat with a Nest and have done quite a bit of research. Thanks for the feedback. Connect your iComfort smart thermsotat to your Google Home device. Indoor air quality with time‐based notification of consumables including media filters, UVC bulbs, humidifier pads, and PureAir system catalyst service / replacement, iHarmony® zoning system (2 - 4 zones), Lennox iComfort® Equipment Interface Module (Catalog number 10T50) Variable is nice for lower noise and higher efficiency, but it’s more complicated and they get you locked in to their system. The iComfort is not your traditional mattress, so it will not be a product for everyone’s taste. – The icomfort and Nest are programmable via smartphone, but not the Prestige, which comes with an in-house remote (one that may escape with all the other remotes you can’t find). Wow I’m very happy to read this thread. Take a look at wiring in the documentation the installer left for you (air handler is important) ad see what’s required option wise. The iComfort is a communicating thermostat Two terminals provide 24 volts and the other two are data transfer terminals. I’ll put a call into Lennox but I don’t suspect they want to tell me how to use a competitor’s device when they could sell me their own. http://support.nest.com/article/2nd-...specifications. Page 1 HOMEOWNER'S MANUAL ® iComfort Wi-Fi Thermostat ©2014 Lennox Industries Inc. Dallas, Texas, USA Touch-Screen Programmable Communicating Thermostat CONTROLS ® iComfort Wi-Fi Web and Mobile 507342-01 Apps 2/2014 Supersedes 507200-01 General ® Congratulations on choosing the iComfort Wi-Fi touch-screen, programmable thermostat! Forgot to mention it also a Lennox furnace and Central AC unit. PureAir u/v air cleaner which the S30 controls. While the iComfort ® S30 is designed for use with Lennox iComfort ® enabled equipment, the iComfort ® S30 can be used with the Equipment Interface Module (EIM) to work with almost any system. Speaking of the furnace control board, it has all the normal W1, W2, G, Y1, Y2, C and R connections that you’ll need. It’s not controlled by thermostat. Variable-speed fans are not well supported by aftermarket thermostats - never heard of one. I was told when I purchased the SLP98v furnace and XC25 a/c that the Ecobee would be unable to control the units properly. I pulled a new wire from the furnace to my thermostat. I’m in the same situation: Lennox system SLP98UHV and I’m tired with icomfort s30. I pretty much had zero hope Smartthings would ever control this thermostat as it appeared to be a closed system with no API. 210641 November 2015 Supersedes October 2014 The iComfort Wi-Fi ® Thermostat recognizes and connects to all iComfort -enabled products to automatically configure and control the heating/cooling system (based on user-specified settings) for the The i-comfort also controls blower speeds in all modes where the nest does not. Indoor air quality with time‐based notification of consumables including media filters, UVC bulbs, humidifier pads, and PureAir system catalyst service / replacement, iHarmony® zoning system (2 - 4 zones), Lennox iComfort® Equipment Interface Module (Catalog number 10T50) see less I would agree with RickMakes, that Nest does not work with variable capacity furnaces like the Lennox SLP98V. I followed the wires and found the communications hub that my piece of crap new thermostat talks to. ... Google Nest Learning Thermostat, Stainless Steel 3rd Gen T3007ES Sealed Free S/H. 3. Accessories Pumps, Cooling Towers, Evap Condensers, etc, Components Valves, Motors, Condensers, Evaporators, etc, Duct Systems Design, Installation & Practice, Piping Systems Design, Installation & Practice, Control System Design, Installation & Practice, Welcome from the Editor & Electrical Forum Rules, Pro's Forum: National Electrical Code (NEC), Pro's Forum: Calculations & Electrical Theory, Pro's Forum: Electrical Business & Marketing. The only tricky parts were removing the smart hub and feeding the old cable back into the furnace unit. Trending at $165.00. I have a sinking feeling my installer yanked them out. Current wiring is an R, C, and an i+ and i-. The install wasn’t hard. My HVAC tech also gave me a very long spiel about how the unit would be “less efficient” with a Nest. So my ecobee is going to be connected to the traditional ones. guys, looking to switch out my Lennox iComfort Thermostat (the old, non-WiFi model) with either an Ecobee3 or Nest (or maybe Honeywell). DIP switches on the furnace control board have to be properly configured for this, but it’s all laid out very clearly in the installation manual. The iComfort is a communicating thermostat and does talk to the furnace to set what stage of heat is required for the house. At least they now also have iOS HomeKit integration. The devices most commonly called “smart thermostats”, such as thermostats from Nest, Ecobee, Honeywell, etc., are only compatible with “low voltage” 24v HVAC systems. Nest 3.0 replacing Lenox iComfort So, I've got a Lenox unit, with a 4 wire setup labeled R, C, i+, and i-. Photo linked. Looking at the nest instructions it says can control humidify or dehumidify but not both. 2. iComfort® S30 Smart Thermostat; iComfort® E30 Smart Thermostat; iComfort® WiFi Smart Thermostat ; ComfortSense® 7500 Series Thermostat; ComfortSense® 5500 Series Thermostat; ComfortSense® 3000 Series Thermostats; Nest Thermostat; ecobee4 Smart WiFi Thermostat I suppose the HVAC guys could just be trying to sell the more expensive Lennox products, but the answer makes sense. Lennox is telling me I can’t use my Ecobee and even if I could it wouldn’t support the advanced variable speed features of my new AC and furnace. I also have the PureAir u/v air cleaner which the S30 controls… Still holding out hope that it becomes a supported option at some point. iComfort® E30 Smart Thermostat " ComfortSense® 3000 Series iComfort® Wi-Fi Touchscreen Thermostat iComfort® S30 Ultra Smart Thermostat " ComfortSense® 5500 Series iComfort® M30 Smart Thermostat Perfect Temp Works with your system to heat or cool as needed to preserve your temperature in any weather, year-round Filter Reminder Any stat other than the Lennox control will result in your furnace becoming a 3 stage turd. I think this is deceptive, if not dishonest. Guess I have to keep dreaming for now. If I had to replace one of the NEST’s I have now, I would probably fork over the additional $75 and upgrade to the Lennox iComfort E30…although $470 is nothing to sneeze at especially for a thermostat, but I’m a tech junkie and like Lennox products. Had a new system installed 4/18/20. Hello again Pros. After signing in, you’ll be able to view your iComfort system settings, adjust the temperature and view reminders and alerts – just as you would on your iComfort thermostat at home. An SLP will modulate from 40 to 100% of it actual nameplate BTU. So pleased with our purchase I have the same furnace, but not sure about the wiring yet. Okay - I cracked open my furnace and sure enough all the usual terminals are there. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, 8891AADC-A730-4C67-966C-9C2B5B893D59.jpeg, 0D69C42F-D85E-440F-AD3F-3D27EDDAA16B.jpeg, B830B6EA-4EEC-495A-A81C-3C663AC14526.jpeg, Lennox iComfort Wi-Fi Touchscreen Thermostat - - Amazon.com. Model No. 103445- It will just take time. It took about a week for the Nest to “learn” when it need to call for Stage 2 cooling instead of Stage 1, based on the outside temperature and the specifics of my home, but everything is working just fine now. Remote control of your home environment is just one touch or voice command† away with the They show the dip switches, the terminals, and the happy finished product. Tap Set up a device; 4. Don't do it. But maybe. It appears the installer (in 2013) used different colors going into the furnace, as the photos show. You could probably pick a single-speed to operate and cycle it with a Nest or Ecobee3. Written by: … I need to look into the thermostat you attached - could be a viable alternative to Ecobee3. The iComfort® E30 Wi-Fi-enabled smart thermostat is a universal thermostat that works with non-iComfort-enabled and non-Lennox products, giving you easier access to the comfort, convenience, and energy savings you deserve. So… I am taking matters into my own hands and writing a DTH. wired everything up, and I’ve got a Nest working with it just fine. They’re not on the ecobee compatibility chart and I suspect I’d get a faster answer from you guys than ecobee. guys, looking to switch out my Lennox iComfort Thermostat (the old, non-WiFi model) with either an Ecobee3 or Nest (or maybe Honeywell). It stores system parameters and settings in non-volatile memory (i.e., it retains data when electrical power fails or is turned off). They’re probably just thinking that all of the stuff they’ve read in the manuals and sales brochures says that the iComfort system is “more efficient”, so that means that anything else is logically “less efficient”. I was told when I purchased the SLP98v furnace and XC25 a/c that the Ecobee would be unable to control the units properly. Our 20th year anniversary is May 21, 2020. I agree with you 100%… I have an S30 iComfort and miss my Ecobee… I paid a lot for that S30 and it was a step down on the feature set. Compatibility with Amazon Alexa makes comfort even easier. iComfort Wi-Fi. Follow the steps to complete setup Gain access to our free AOP (Ask a Professional) Section to get real answers for your questions. Tap Have something already set up? The new Lenox system and thermostat are absolutely the best. I got a quote from my HVAC professional for something like $1200 to install, which I thought was ludicrous. This thread has given me confidence. I am looking into whether that can be a bridge to ST using HomeBridge from this forum. They’re not on the ecobee compatibility chart and I suspect I’d get a faster answer from you guys than ecobee. I had to flip one dip switch on the furnace board to tell it to emulate a two stage thermostat since I didn’t have enough wires in the wall to hook up Ecobee as a true two stage. The SLP is designed to work just fine with single-stage or two-stage thermostats. So far I have all the web calls and auth flows decoded. The iComfort Wi-Fi’s one-touch Away Mode makes saving energy simple. Yes the ones on the bottom left of the photo in my post. But, everything is clearly labeled and as long as you’re comfortable popping the side off your furnace (and you’re absolutely sure you’ve shut off the power to the unit at the breaker), it is a fairly straightforward, if tedious, process. If not I will have to reinstall my piece of crap Lennox thermostat and start working on the integration hack again. Ask Our Pros-Owner Assistance - NO DIY advice will be given. No manufacturer that I am aware of has open sourced their communication between the control and the furnace and none probably ever will. Per the manual its the data information connection. I just picked up the Ecobee, having moved over the past year and given up on the Nest. T-Stat: iComfort Wifi. On the Home tab, tap the "Add" quick action. ANY thermostat that is properly connected to the SLP98UHV will do that just fine. I’ve not had much like finding an adapter but I’m still hunting. I’ll try this out tonight. Ask Your Own HVAC Question On your mobile device, open the Google Home app. One word of warning though… this story isn’t over. Thanks for this… going to work on getting my Ecobee back on the wall this weekend. Frankly I would not expect you to be able to switch it out. What is worse than the Nest … I know they have an API because they support Alexa so this is possible. I’m going through the same issue with my iComfort (piece of crap) and dreaming of switching to Nest. iComfort Wi‐Fi® Thermostat - Technical Description and Features The 24VAC iComfort Wi‐Fi® thermostat is an electronic communicating, color display touchscreen and 7-day programmable thermostat. Let’s face it if they did EcoBee would probably do it better than them within 3 months and nest would screw it up but have the legions of fanboys that don’t know any better screaming about how it’s the furnaces fault. A communicating thermostat is only “more efficient” in the sense that it has finer control of the fan and the furnace. The iComfort is a communicating tstat that uses 4 wires. Okay folks - got my Ecobee back and I’m super happy. 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Heating is another wire - W - but that’s separated. Also, is your air handler truly variable speed, or is it 3 speed (2 for cooling and 1 for dehumidification with AC -like my Lennox is - and they call it variable speed). The Lennox’s latest offering, the iComfort S30, looks nice but is hard to find unless bought from an authorized dealer - it’s also pretty expensive. The controller board has both communicating thermostat terminals and traditional terminals. Being more forgiving, it’s likely that sales reps and technicians haven’t really thought about what “less efficient” means here. Yours sounds like a “communicating/intelligent” proprietary thermostat wiring interface. I talked to my furnace guy again and he thinks this wiring won’t work for the AC when summer arrives because the AC unit only has wiring for a communicating thermostat. The fuel efficiency of the unit is fixed. In time, I went from iComfort to Heneywell Prestige and now Ecobee and it controls my system perfectly. Customers don't always feel good about these mattresses. Does anybody know what these might be equivalent to? You should be certain that your HVAC is compatible before you try to hook up a smart thermostat. If we find a solution I will post it here. With the recent problems with the Nest smoke alarms, I wonder if Nest's quality control is as good as it should be. Hello there, The iComfort is WiFi and Lennox's interface is not that bad. The Lennox iComfort M30 Smart Thermostat is a wifi-enabled, 7-day programmable thermostat that is compatible with single and multi-stage furnaces or air conditioners. You may need to have an HVAC pro rewire it using the traditional points on you units. I was wondering if you guys had an opinion on what you prefer between the 2nd gen Nest or the iComfort system? item 1 2 Lennox 10F81 iComfort Wi-Fi Programmable Touchscreen Thermostat 7" 1 - 2 Lennox 10F81 iComfort Wi-Fi Programmable Touchscreen Thermostat 7" $150.00 1 bid 8d 23h. My furnace is an SLP98UHV which I guess is designed to communicate with my Lennox Tstat. not simple job for homeowner. Welcome home. I’ve surmised so far that the i+ and i- lines are definitely comm lines and I suspect, as you mentioned, it’s something proprietary. He is researching it over the winter. It has a microcontroller inside the furnace that modulates the heat output based on how often and how long the different stages have been called for, somewhere form 35% to 100% of the nameplate BTUs, modulating the fan to match. Current wiring is an R, C, and an i+ and i-. You’ll find the award-winning Lennox iComfort S30 smart thermostat among our selection, along with other sleek and modern touch-screen display thermostats from Nest, Honeywell and White-Rodgers. Nest Bedding: Get 10% Off Sitewide. I mostly want to confirm that my understanding of what I need to do is accurate. I believe iComfort is a proprietary Lennox system. You can use a Nest or Ecobee with the Lennox SLP98UHV. You can tell which iComfort thermostat you have by checking: Model number under Settings > General > About . I've got a yellow wire going into the i+, and a white into i-. and would need to be removed and rewired for Nest. I know this is an older thread but I just bought into the same problem. From what I gather I simply need to move them to the non communicating strip of connectors: Dual-fuel capable (iComfort® heat pump only) with two balance points. It is one of the more expensive thermostats out there. The iComfort ® S30 Smart Thermostat is designed to work with Lennox iComfort ® enabled furnaces (SLP98V, SL280V, and EL296V) and Lennox iComfort ® enabled air handlers (CBX40UHV and CBX32MV). CONTROLS WI-FI THERMOSTAT iComfort® Residential Communicating Control System iComfort Wi-Fi® Thermostat Bulletin No. Faced with that steep price tag, I did something even crazier and cracked open the manual. The iComfort is a far superior thermostat than the ecobee. About on par with Honeywell's app. Lennox is one of the biggest a/c manufacturers in the country, and it's not going anywhere, and we have a good relationship with the local installer. Hit up Nest support they are pretty helpful, even if you don’t choose Nest it may point you in the right direction. Fully modulating communicating systems (such as your Lennox iComfort, or the Carrier Infinity) use proprietary serial protocols that the Nest doesn't know how to speak. I also like the iComfort's 5-year warranty vs. the Nest's 2-year warranty. Stay tuned as I make progress. I agree with you 100%… I have an S30 iComfort and miss my Ecobee… I paid a lot for that S30 and it was a step down on the feature set. Online access to your iComfort® system. Yes... we are 20 years old. iComfort® E30 Smart Thermostat The most versatile thermostat for your comfort needs Features Overview Alexa Integration—allows you to control the thermostat setting with voice commands. 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