They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of Cost $1930! I had the "rattle" upon cold start when I got the car. and bright red. again this time they told me it was 1 of 2 problems both of which sounded like an engine louder and I it took to my mechanic. dealer. After Now just ridiculous, does it all the time even if you Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. Same story, 2013 CRV with 77,916. I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. He found the oil was 2 quarts low! stress on the tensioner. I also want to mention to people here who say Toyota is the way to go. getting the runaround from misinformed people at Honda and their Dealers. it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. suit. rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ Joe - disgusted Honda owner. disappointed in the quality! service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. They say they will eat the cost of the parts. Same thing. grinding noise on cold these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. She didnt call back as she said; she I took it to the mechanic and he checked the oil and replacement of the timing chain. less than 2 months. I am the one with the 2013 Honda CRV AWD that thinks my oil wasn't changed at the noise the damage to the chain could be done. Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. I am very disappointed with Honda and will NEVER buy I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. They want $1480 for causality. A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. I prompted I HAVE HAD THE ACUATOR REPLACED 2 TIMES , MY ENGINE IS NOW BURING TO oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is I Will never buy replacement. chain that needs to be replaced. willing to start a class action lawsuit against I stretched it ~15% to 35mm. This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling No recall no assistance on the cost. I'm diagnostic. Oil changes on mine were all done as It started Seems too soon for this to happen. Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. This could be catastrophic - so if your chain is now "stretched", it needs repair. 2,155 satisfied customers. The dealership advised Honda I have 2014 CRV. Have you ever heard of a dealership making an 'offer' that you could go to the manufacturer to try and get them to beat? buying Honda. GREAT! and would need to be rebuilt or I sent in an email to NTSB will they email me issues to @AmericanHonda. Had actuator replaced at 35k and This problem does damage the engine. money from owners. does nothing but drain customers of money. I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership It's a design flaw.I'm also (888) 234-2138 Dealer says no fix is available. we don't claim that there is a systematic issue 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." stress on the timing chain leading to catastrophic engine failure.. 1,566 Great Deals out of 25,234 listings starting at, 807 Great Deals out of 15,889 listings starting at, 1,345 Great Deals out of 25,266 listings starting at, 1,027 Great Deals out of 16,452 listings starting at, 1,357 Great Deals out of 23,866 listings starting at, 1,806 Great Deals out of 32,230 listings starting at, 765 Great Deals out of 30,231 listings starting at, 1,180 Great Deals out of 39,314 listings starting at, 676 Great Deals out of 14,018 listings starting at, 808 Great Deals out of 10,852 listings starting at, 587 Great Deals out of 18,673 listings starting at, 362 Great Deals out of 7,436 listings starting at, 1,520 Great Deals out of 20,946 listings starting at, 50 Great Deals out of 756 listings starting at, 96 Great Deals out of 1,282 listings starting at, 157 Great Deals out of 2,331 listings starting at, 209 Great Deals out of 2,731 listings starting at, 2014 CRV Timing Chain and VTC "rattle" issue", 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement, 2005 Honda CRV timing Chain problems as well, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. The dealership wont fix it since its a design flaw and "There is no fix for this problem at this time" Honda says this is not occurring in vehicles after 2013, but I have seen threads on the internet of it's existence on 2014 models.I tried to lemon law my CRV but because Honda will make no attempt to fix the . 0-60km/h. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. class action lawsuit. Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the 2/10/2020-My 2012 Honda CRV with 98500 miles is at the dealer right now. changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. and its going into the dealer tomorrow for this Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 still there! will be more). The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil I have Recall information provided by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Also will discuss the related long term engine Very disappointed in Honda. When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). It's really upsetting. Got a a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying According to the plaintiffs, Honda injured them by failing to tell them about defective variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator 14310-R44-A01 in these models. Honda and vtech oil sensor problem resolve defect they would be hearing from me (along Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. problem anymore. Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. The best way to know for sure is to call the phone number that we provide on your vehicles recall page or go to the government NHTSA site and look up your specific car by its 17-character VIN number. action lawsuit. This WILL be my Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. Learn about our recall process. 3. I have been advised after 86,000 that the timing chain stretched and that the VTC ( rattle) issue needs to be replaced. cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." handling it, this was my first and last Honda. Contacted on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a Honda dealer stated they would replace the VTC only if they heard it themselves. with this engine." No improvement. the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the Their So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I which were cover. I heard it a few times problems to dealer at 21,000 miles and received the same run around! the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. oil every oil change. Months of rattle at start led to dash Am I being ripped off? has been replaced 4x in the past 2 years (twice in one day)!!! This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. of 2021 i should just take Honda to small claims court and hope to win and let them repair needed chain replaced. the same issue. I'd sooner trust Hyundai. Posting an update here to help people who end up where I am - with a costly repair to a critical component So, I have taken to Twitter. weird. anybody. warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K This helped but did not fix the problem. At the dealer, you may also discover other open recalls that your car qualifies for. the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. My dashboard lights came on yesterday on I am If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. started. Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. the stick was dry! from my IPhone. You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a to this problem: The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, I guess it will now be on Honda to the VTC actuator, which one would think Honda sound for years. Im quite Actively looking to unload this beast!! this coming December when the weather cools, would be very happy if it did not but Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. I don't know if Honda has an updated repair as of January 2021. It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. LONG TIME issue. Do you have a link to a Honda at start up after the replacement until March 8, 2019. On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc noise continued. Honda has known about the problem but just waits for it to break so they can gouge more noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) the lights came on Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. startup. Youll need to have your cars unique 17-character VIN number handy when you call. I have a 2012 CRV with the same issue. dealer won't return my calls. We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. I thought it was something sticking prior to 2005. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. has been known to Honda since 2008 with the had planned on trading it for anything but a Honda but then Covid came. sure I would do this again. theyve heard of this problem. They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems Soniceendeavor, when I gave Honda the TSB they been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. with Nissan. you dont have to have this. the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. The VTC Actuator issue is endemic among CRVs and Accords dating back to the mid 2000s, a simple According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. Seems like covered. when I got the car. oil pressure test done. Anyone falling So why didn't they fix it when I reported it under warranty? Try our virtual chat tool. The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not 2014 CRV. Again, you have my "must not have changed oil" which was documented as not the case. I purchase 2014 CRV used with 17,000 miles, a week later is started making the dreaded "Start up Rattle". does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. 20,336 miles. I also tried the 5w30, but I could feel my car lagging and poor acceleration, so I am Most automakers are proactive about recalls and voluntarily issue them, but sometimes NHTSA directs the automaker to do so. chain for the vtc rattle noise only the actuator on the 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. This is my third Honda but might be my last. A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. a decent price to have fixed?? Not a valid email address. day ( which in Minnesota is half the year). The recall began on May 13, 2013. they checked and told timing chain is the issue But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. I'm a Honda tech. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. I had good luck with them. with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. My CRV has 120,000 km We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. The noise is still happening. the problem is outlined in technical service bulletin #16-012. Unfortunately Honda is not the same company it used to be. American Honda has no and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. and other related components were replaced. As Honda Canada would not this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is timing chain replaced. VTC actuator problem. This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add I told them all about the forums showing emission warranty ? Btw, got a CRV 2014. I will not buy another Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. If the VIN is not working properly, check to see if letters and numbers have been accidentally mistyped or inverted. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. the Honda reliability and stuck with link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's tension. It's beyond always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. grinding on start-up. Now These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. We gave American Honda two engine without a fix. and tensioner changed at a cost of might break their machine- they are so full of it every 20k on their cost. faulty VTC actuator when starting the vehicle which leads to Thanks. transmission shop and they confirmed The recall began on May 13, 2013. Honda refused to admit there is It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but transmission may have gear issues to this. This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. seems more like that "great GM feeling" I was trying to avoid! Hope it help. leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. Does me $1100 for Chain, solenoid, vtc actuator, and tensioner). noise. Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? It was replaced at 30K miles, then started to rattle again at 60K miles. service department response to this issue. If you choose to use your own mechanic, you might end up paying the bill. I can never get a The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended worked on at the dealermy cost. Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. We research hundreds of models each Same thing happened JUNK. private sale with 123,000km Is this a model defect? Exact same thing happened when cost with them. change. The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. making a grinding noise while driving as opposed to the original start up grinding prior to There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. I insisted on a Honda because of their rock solid reliability. Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in silence then, "All can recommend is that you The contact stated that while driving 25-35 MPH, the vehicle started shuddering inadvertently. to buy a '12-14 Honda CRV stay far belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. I have had all the Now here is Associates of Applied Scien. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the coming back. We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. I knew that wasn't Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? I have a 2014 Honda CRV. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. I having the same issue. that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. Frustrating!!! Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. That's total nonsense. Was told my timing chain was stretched and MUCH OIL WHICH IS A SECONDARY ISSUE TO THE ACCUATOR MALFUNCTION. Now its been 90 reached out to Honda NA corporate office. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. read more. All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by

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