My CTR same thing. 0000638363 00000 n Tolerance and modern milling means there is no need for a "break in" anymore. The FFT spotter style stock weighs in starting at 5.5 pounds making it ideal on those long hikes up the mountain. In comparison, a competitor's rifle with a 26-inch steel varmint/target barrel weighs 11 poundsthat's 4.3 pounds of extra weight the Ridgeline doesn't have. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. This is due to outside of the barrel sleeves not being concentric with the bore. That I should have followed their break in. I have bore scoped the barrel and everything checks out ok. but there is an issue with the weapon. i cant remember is this their match grade barrel. In the website, its not very clear that I could actually buy a zero-degree rail (duplicating the one it came with), so I had to call customer service. It can't just disappear. The weight is somewhat average/light for a standard, pencil or light profile barrels. I see the benefit of CF Barrels, and this, while disappointing, has not turned me off to them. My issues with Christensen Arms barrel problems. Finish, fit and machining are excellent. 0000024402 00000 n Mag. #r5&vtRN,-}@tN8MQ/lg$vza~E`7J}?7Ul6v97p[4+M2 .c> g`k9ES3pA;Gl`zDmqPe#(I*ea,ZJQf#B You won't find many horror stories here! Well-Known Member Joined Aug 10, 2003 Messages 408 Location McKinney TX Dec 25, 2005 #2 Unless Christensen Arms has changed there carbon wrap and there process I would steer way clear. It makes the toughest targets seem like chip shots. Christensen Arms Ranger 22 .22 LR 18" Threaded Barrel 10 Rds 801-12002-00; Item Description; 100% New In The Box. Many have commented get about 500 rounds through it and then come back and tell us how it is going. A friend of mine recently bought a christiansen Ridgeline in 300 rum, has carbon fiber barrel. I've only handled the MPR, and was favorably impressed by it. So dont be surprised to see these cartridges offered in a growing number of production rifles. At these speeds, it is easier to minimize the differences in muzzle velocity from one shot to the next. Looking at a 308 now. JavaScript is disabled. , -Repaired Extraction Issue by installing a new barrel and installing a Sako Extractor and . Has anyone who owns a Christensen Arms rifle had a problem with them grouping poorly? After every range session I have been putting about 1 to 2 magazines down the barrel. I had a bench but it was damaged. While its design is influenced by competition rifles, particularly in the stock, it retains the moderate weight (7.3 pounds) and lively handling that a good big-game rifle requires. It stores a true/false value, indicating whether it was the first time Hotjar saw this user. Will update sometime next week when I get to the range. Thanks all for the info! You must log in or register to reply here. 0000011915 00000 n But not a pant load. I want to start off by saying I am no rookie when it comes to long guns. They make them in-house (instead of using something like a Proof barrel) and the problem is that they're either . To make the shopping experience with Brownells better, we have a number of representatives in Europe. It is a great $2000 paper weight. It took months and months of saving to be able to purchase this rifle. This has been very helpful for me. IMO CA having this policy on their website is just an out to allow them to brush off defects on to the owner. But the stock is built like a tank, and with a solid rest, the rifle really reaches out there. Bentz chamber And would be completely back to square one attempting to figure out what the hell was going on. Daniel Defense Delta 5. I have read about some, as with a few from word of mouth. What are the thread measurements for your barrels? And it sure as shit shouldn't be a 10in shift at a 100 yards in a .300 made to shoot at a thousand. Weve had countless ca rifles. I called Krieger and ordered a blank yesterday afternoon after debating whether or not to buy a CF barrel from Proof Research. The action is very very nice to cycle. Brownings latest delivers top-notch long-range hunting performance at an attainable price, as the company was able to shave costs by making the new stock in-house. We can take a clue from the world of target shooting. I was debating on a .338 Lapua (Savage, Christensen Arms, MPA, Sako, and custom build). BOLT-ACTION. A few days later, I went into The Armories in Winter Garden Florida and purchased a Christensen Arms rifle. I also find it very interesting that with the exception of 2 rounds your Tikka 25 shot group is in a diagonal string in the same direction and all as the MPR, just not as wide. My 700 in a krg same thing. I purchased a ca ridgeline from prophet river arms in may 2022.The chamber was so tight I had trouble to eject the cartridge and the accuracy was terrible!!!!! Am a bit disappointed. What I see from that MPR 25 round group is several individual groups which tells me you're not breaking the shot the same each time. It has the kind of performance that makes ground squirrels quake in their burrows. Might be a foolish question but is the barrel torqued on well? Just sprayed all types of ammo. Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. . I hope your gun issues get resolved. 5Y:t_0Z']P\yN0,0 How durable are carbon fiber wrapped barrels? Thanks for the review. I bought a 22 LR from Al's sporting goods in Idaho Falls Idaho. Google Analytics sets this cookie to store the traffic source or campaign by which the visitor reached the site. The front end of the barrel was ceracoated, the shade doesnt quite match. I'm also shooting from a relatively uncomfortable patch of ground. They knew EVERYTHING about their product line and along with the staff of The Armories, we were all super impressed. Off the bench, the Switch is one of the most accurate guns weve shot. I have way more precision rifles in 6.5, .308, .300, .22-250 than is reasonable. CA's machine work is very good, I see quality in the product. In the end, I got what I needed, but I wouldnt say it was an enjoyable process.. Turnaround time was 3 weeks. Here are 8 tips for writing great reviews. I recently sent my Christensen back for it had horrible chrony results and second when I did a OAL to start reloading it was reamed to deep. In gusty 15mph wind! It is magnificent and dead on! To replace the factory Remington 7mmRM barrel. All one shot deals. 0000002423 00000 n 0000003959 00000 n Competing on PRS matches? You must log in or register to reply here. Some of the data that are collected include the number of visitors, their source, and the pages they visit anonymously. I have called but can never get a person to talk to. 0000003055 00000 n I went from defending Christensen Arms, to urging people to never buy one of these rifles. Action: Semi-Auto, direct-impingement gas system. Anyone can write a Trustpilot review. I spend two hours shooting Hornady 178 ELD Match. Bolt Carrier Group: Black Nitride Finish. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. I allowed for about a 10 minute break. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Have any of you tried the short chamber offerings in these barrels? Arms rifles has to do with their carbon fiber barrels. Mag., and .300 Win. Even if it's hot as hell it should only open up a bit. The issues with Christensen is well documented, but those are primarily with their carbon fiber barrels (ridgeline models). Barrel is in excellent condition with good bore and rifling. It is the tactical style. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Wv[9k.Ji#2AlTJ-w]cs_Z vOjEA6XDNJCn,SS@1^m,7VSWO0&e'M,,m[k\nIDq${G%/kW= b*KBwe`, l *7f?2Kw65l[Nzf! With a 26-inch barrel, oversize muzzle brake, and stout chassis stock, it hits the scales at 11 pounds 12 ounces empty. wildcat455 Well-Known Member Joined Mine, in 6.5 CM, has turned in numerous bug-hole groups, including a .181-inch screamer. Its always frustrating when youre having issues with a rifle. Installed by Google Analytics, _gid cookie stores information on how visitors use a website, while also creating an analytics report of the website's performance. Last time I checked, they only offered 9 and 10. The 6 BR has been a mainstay target round for many years, and theres a pack of similar cartridges that have derived from it or are built around similar concepts, including the 6 BRX, 6 BRA, 6mm Norma BR, 6 XC, and 6 Dasher. It is chambered in .243 Win., .270 Win., .308 Win., .30/06, 7mm Rem. Loved the rifle.Broke the handle off the bolt cocking it .Al's sent the gun into Christensen Arms, and told me the turn around time was usually one to three weeks .It has been over six weeks and have no gun yet. None of us could achieve 5 shot MOA. Well, I was finally able to get out to the range again with the "Good Ammo" that I had on hand. 0000005974 00000 n Have you ever thought of having someone else shoot both rifles to eliminate the shooters skill-set variable? 24 inch heavy carbon fiber wrapped barrel plus a muzzle device. Prophet river sells only , corlane sports fixes only in this case (I didnt buy from them ) and Christensen arms only builds the gun , they dont sell or fix them !! That is my experience shooting this rifle. All but a few shot extremely well. I appreciate all the factual based information from everyone. Hopefully with the introduction of the 7PRC Christensen will begin offering 8 twist 7mm blanks. Like thats basic physics, pretty sure its called the thermodynamics Obviously hot barrels have a POI shift. For minor things Christensen Arms also can authorize qualified dealers to handle issues themselves provided the dealer is willing and there aren't costs associated with it. Has anyone tried the short chambered options for these barrels, then setting head spacing yourself? Shooting steel to 1k? Given the different thermal expansion rates of carbon fiber and steel stress relief would likely cause delamination and would void any warranty anyhow. 0000011195 00000 n !I have returned the wrong product back to Christensen for a refund. At 100 yards it opens to almost 2 inches. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Al's has not heard a word. I got the magazines I needed in very quick time. How are your barrels rifled? My test rifle delivered terrific accuracy with a variety of factory loads. It is absolutely off the charts. 0000057372 00000 n Well I hope they figure out your problem, I had them put a new barrel on my weatherby 30-378. Free shipping for many products! The rifle is going back to be checked out. You are using an out of date browser. I was wanting one in 300 Norma. 0000638807 00000 n Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Christensen Arms Mesa The Mesa was released in 2016, and much like the Ridgeline, it was an overnight success. Thanks again. The three rifles I built using ca barrels shot sub quarter minute chambered in 300 wsm, 7-270wsm, and 6.5 SAUM. This is not a problem with the MPR because it can be made to fit almost anyone. The Pro Hunter is a near-perfect expression of the modern long-range hunting rifle. Are my expectations to high? With factory Hornady 108-grain ELD Match loads, it shoots .5 MOA (or better), making 1,000-yard hits on steel with relative ease. I have an older Christensen Arms rifle. Their website says, "Fits any standard Remington 700. A no-nonsense hunting rifle which is enjoyed by hunters and precision shooters alike. How much better can we expect rifles and cartridges to perform? It shoots Hornady 140 Match, 140 AM gunner and 143 Precision Hunter ammo into tight groups. Trigger Tech trigger is Soooo NICE, clean cold bore shots go to the same hole as the follow up shots. Another problem is the barrels will move with temperature, 1st group shoots dead on the target area, next group shoots 2 inches to the left etc. Received the wrong muzzle brake, then was told that since my rifle is pre 2012, Christensen doesnt make those muzzle brakes anymore!!! In the quest for ever-better accuracy, they are sure to be part of the equation. They have a stellar reputation. I am not surprised. Like it said in my last post though, by your original post it seems like you shot the MPR first warming up. Is my understanding correct that the first shots you fired in this range session was the 25 round group where the rifle was walking while warming up? when your wrapping carbon fibre with a little skinny barrel underneith is fine with normal magnums and nonmagnums, the problem with the 300 ultra is it heats up the barrel too much because the steel is so thin and will actually burn the barrel out in around 200 rounds, now that is just what I read from a few people and I can't remember on which He just bought a RPR 6mm and he did tell me how well he thought it shot, as in he was impressed with it's accuracy. . The only x other issue I had was I got the manual for a MPR rifle instead of the ELR. 0000054724 00000 n I was gearing towards Christensen and Sako, but decided to go custom. 9. 0000010303 00000 n The large sample data we have all combined with CA carbon barrels is very large. As youll see, some are made for competition, and some are made for hunting. At this point I'm going to email christensen. Not fan boy garbage and bashing to be cool and fit in with the haters. Like the Ridgeline, it is by no means a competition rifle, but it is no slouch at the range. The staff that attended was the real deal. I have also ordered probably six 30 cal carbon blanks, a few 6.5's, and a 223 along with a few 338's. This situation is something else Ive never had an issue like this with any rifle I own from any manufacturer. Bought a Mesa in 7mm rem mag. Are my muzzle threads different? 0000003569 00000 n I wish I could use a new hunting rifle because I want to by a Bergara premier Stalker or Mnt rifle. I don't make a ton of money. There barrels actually insulate and trap heat in, (that's what carbon fiber does) dispite what there ads claim. Meet our award-winning MPR, awarded the SI Golden Bullseye 2020 Rifle of the Year., This website or its third-party tools process personal data.In case of sale of your personal information, you may opt out by using the link. I still say shooter error. I'm a NRA instructor and have shot quite a few rifles. Great guys to talk to and they seem to care. It may not display this or other websites correctly. First make sure that the barrel is clean and free of any oil or solvents from shipping or the manufacturing processes. H|Un0+(,J~D(QCL;jdI!.-zP`0a1=T7zF67r QN d^Hf"YlsO'a&I.AD11*Q&0J BZ\y/s9 (u8itlpa to identify and resolve the problem. I'm no competitive shooter, but I know more than a thing or two about guns. The button-rifled, hand-lapped barrels on these rifles feature a match chamber, 1/2x28 threads on the muzzle and come with a recoil lug sandwiched between the barrel . CHRISTENSEN ARMS RIDGELINE FFT - $2,417.99 I have been saving up for two years to purchaseone of your firearms. Breaking in a barrel consists of a series of shooting and cleaning sequences. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". 2023 Christensen Arms. Caliber. Their customer service is second to none! $799.99. . I can wait to get it sighted in. The first day at the range I shot 1/2 and under at 100, with FACTORY 180 gr accubonds and 180 gr BT. I mean I still hadn't even gotten a rough zero. Many people may have good experience with CA but it isn't worth the risk of getting one of these lemons. Milhous is from Alaska and grew up shooting long range as well as hunting. For the amount of $$$ they cost, one would think they would shoot sub 0.5 MOA all day long Any thoughts? This big brute isnt made for hauling into the mountains. 0000007318 00000 n You are making an offer for. Please see my other auctions for more rare, hard to find barrels and scopes!" 0000638869 00000 n When I order blanks, I order from Christensen Arms, Red Hawk Rifles, CarbonSix and Bug Holes. I just purchased my first Christensen Arms Firearm. Some are high-end rifles costing several thousand dollars, and some are inexpensive enough that you might be tempted to buy two, just because. I am by no means bashing, I personally have no experience with them. You are using an out of date browser. I wanted to find out what the opinion is regarding Christensen Arms barrels? I mounted a S&B Mil Pm 3x12. G endstream endobj 178 0 obj <>stream I shoot maybe 10 rounds out of my steel barrel and then let it cool. I would imagine the whole process of bonding/wrapping the barrels, turning them, stress relief and other work going into it adds several compounding factors. Picture of the gun below. Buy Christensen Arms Ranger 22 LR 18" Threaded Barrel 10rd 801-12002-00: GunBroker is the largest seller of Bolt Action Rifles Rifles Guns & Firearms All: 973715588 . The second question is: Whats the most accurate hunting rifle made? The answer to that is a lot simpler. . Notice how the barrel never gets hot when when shooting one? This is an impressive debut for Daniel Defense, which is a newcomer to the high-end bolt-action rifle scene. Can't wait to shoot it. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. Many of mine are barrel blanks built for guaranteed headspace actions then I thread on the barrel myself while several of mine have been built with the action in their hands while doing so. I was told that the action was re-Ceracoated and the bottom plate was replaced. My test gun printed many groups with factory ammo in the .4s, making it a great long-range hunting rifle. If I could sell this monstrosity and buy an MPA, or hell even another budget ass plastic ass Savage (I <3 my savage, no offense to you) Id do it in an instant. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Shooting the bergara from the XLR chassis a a WORLD of difference from that Mega Orias chassis. Proof Research 338 Whisper Carbon Fiber Barrel - 1:9.4. Currently borrowing a Tikka Tac A1 till I get my MPR back, its shipping tomorrow. I have one that will not group consistently at all. Our TFM and Summit TI rifles are guaranteed to shoot MOA or better in most calibers. Those are the two offerings I have found so far anyway. Hotjar sets this cookie to identify a new users first session. I have three currently and had 6 others. This doesnt look like a traditional hunting rifle, but dont let that fool you. Carbon fiber is also excellent. Plenty of the CTR groups are walking all over too but not as bad as the 25 round group from the MPR. They are simply the best shooting carbon barrels we have tested to date. Google Analytics sets this cookie, to determine new sessions/visits. They seem more than willing to help me out. Purchased bottom metal to replace the existing bottom metal in CA Traverse 300 PRC, was a perfect fit. Wr 8EJ }e6{,P62,G5eq:kuo\*jOe He advised it should be able to keep a decent group with 20 rounds. That's why they only last 200 rounds. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I am going to give it one more shot at the range with myself and another shooter from a solid rest. The large cluster of shots was at the end of the day. It is updated every time data is sent to Google Analytics. Can't get the gun to shoot groups.At 50 yards I get a 1 inch group. I feel that Christensen rifles are of the highest quality and the best value out there. This consistency makes bullet drop at longer distances easier to predict, leading to more hits on target. 691328237713. I wish they used krieger, or hart barrels. Thanks for the reply. HUn@}W#H61. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Thats why Christensen Arms builds an exceptionally lightweight. I called Krieger and ordered a blank yesterday afternoon after debating whether or not to buy a CF barrel from Proof Research. My MPR shot unimpressive groups with factory ammo as well, but not quite as bad as those. If weight isn't an issue then I'd personally go with an HMR Pro if you want a chassis style rig or the approach if you want a traditional stock. A 416R stainless steel-barreled MRP will tip the scales between 8.4 and 9.6 pounds. It has a lot of nice touches, including flush-mounted QD cups and an adjustable cheekpiece and is one of the most accurate rifles for the money. In the meantime I have a TAC A1 I'm trying out in 6.5cm it's a tack driver. Take on the toughest hunts with our most popular hunting rifle. I sent it back for repair under warranty. My experience with Christensen CS has not been impressive. Please keep us updated. Many factors influence accuracy such as ammunition, conditions, shooter ability, etc. I will continue to buy and recommend Christensen rifles. I have more direct experience with Christensen (used to work for a dealer), but a little bit of info on Bergara. . Nowhere closer to having any resemblance of a zero. trailer <<88C0082D589B4BFBBCCF95943FE08D78>]/Prev 729709>> startxref 0 %%EOF 58 0 obj <>stream And finally got it. Gun would not come close to a 1 inch group. Such a large group it wasn't even measurable. 01 CLEAR BORE First make sure that the barrel is clean and free of any oil or solvents from the manufacturing process. But what they all have in common is a remarkable ability to cluster their shots into tiny groups under real-world conditions. Who makes the barrels for them, or are they built completely inhouse? Just $1 per month , Among the dozens of accurate production rifles weve tested over the years, these are the best for long-range precision hunting, We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. The occurrence of POI shift would roughly correspond to the length of time between strings. Literally the last shots fired. Barrel: 16" 416R Stainless Steel Aerograde Carbon Fiber Wrapped. All except for your 25 round group comparisons are similar and equally inconsistent with flyers for the most part. My overall was longer then my 3.75 mag. a burden to carry all day even if you dont get to take a shot. Reloading- What pressure signs do you stop at. I have a Bergara LRP in 6.5 CM, It's been very good to me, I have about 1500 rounds down the tube now. If you are buying a blank to chamber in 7 PRC, be sure you get an 1:8 twist. I've had/have both and the XLR is so much better. 20 39 They said they changed out the barrel for a new one. I was gearing towards Christensen and Sako, but decided to go custom. So unless proven otherwise I'll stick with residual stress as the cause. i've had problems with my boys but that issue was the feed ramp. It kept walking down. Real world testing is what you will get here. The ones that didnt Were promptly taken care of. I lost count of how many carbon barreled CA rifles I have set up. I have also ordered probably six 30 cal carbon blanks, a few 6.5's, and a 223 along with a few 338's. Every single blank shot under .5 moa with no issues. Christensen Arms Reviews 374 Excellent 4.6 VERIFIED COMPANY christensenarms.com Visit this website Write a review total 1-star 5% Filter Sort: Most relevant Larry Argo 2 reviews US Feb 19, 2023 Bought a Mesa in 7mm rem mag Bought a Mesa in 7mm rem mag. I wonder if Christensen would do it. The two-lug bolt gun is wickedly fast and easy to run. The bottom plate doesnt appear to have been replaced, there are still traces of the dark discoloration visible. Hell, my 18" SPR ar15 within an inch all day prone with bag and bipod. Code: 321-00005-00. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. Description. Capacity. My complaints; the bolt is rough and difficult to close. Add to Cart. send it back it has a quarantee. To expand a little on my previous post I can talk some about the customer service aspect of Christensen compared to what I know about Bergara. Plus we tested them for stringing when hot at distance and they stayed in group. :e2vr=xnc>/r\9KRs75I3. A 3rd shooter fired 2 groups thru it. Love my Christensen Arms barrel blank I had chambered in a 300 PRC by the shop I use. The CA rep then proceeded to tell me that using 178s was also the problem and that 200grs would shrink it to sub MOA. Introduced in 2018, it is rugged, simple, and accurate. I just purchased a CA Mesa in 300WM. He is a very experienced shooter/reloader with many miles under his belt. Select larger calibers are backed by a Sub-MOA guarantee. Hopefully a competent shooter, so that you can trust his results. Over the years Ive tested dozens of new rifles, putting them all through the same rigorous protocol of shooting multiple 5-shot groups with different types of factory ammo. I will always admit when I dont know what I dont know; but occasionally it's something else. Its not slowly unscrewing is it? For $2,400 this thing should be resilient and reliable. Took it to THREE separate gun stores around town and none of their rifle accept it. Verification can help ensure real people write reviews about real companies. [lJG@I`:= *Px32.rsM)U Y.J!+,9GbocbuBh:V:khT 4y rSHpJ;WiK1h#us"g#V]V{GGG{I^|\q;v[ m#XU\5 WSurbVVUQWhpPs .o@ci |U+4S9aA;Y4z% Wbg[vok f|T 0 >* endstream endobj 33 0 obj <>stream I usually shoot around MOA from this location. Only time will tell if its the barrel or not, so I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when another shooter tries it. I own several Bergaras, none of them have ever had anything broken the actions run smooth in B-14s and Premiers and I cannot complain about the accuracy. Handguard: 15" Aluminum Hybrid Carbon Fiber, available in M-Lok. That sounds stand up, hope the problem is fixed and I believe it will be. I mounted the Spuhr and Razor using manufacture specs, using rosin on the interior of the rings and triple checking all torque readings. 0000012285 00000 n You do not have access to www.brownells.com. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The first is: What are the best rifles money can buy these days? Well, if you want an answer to that, pour some whiskey and pull up a chair because there are many layers to that question and were going to be here a while. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I suspect they will have the 1:8s soon if they dont already. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. The South Fork is one of the new rifles for PRS Production Class, which must cost $2,500 or less. It does not store any personal data. Meet the newest and most compact addition to our firearm lineup, ready for backpacking or back-country hunting. good luck with yours. Save big on firearms, accessories, tactical gear, clothing, and ammunition from now until March 29. The thumbhole stock fits like a custom suit. Cookie Notice and they took care of that. This highly accurate, no . It is more accurate than I am. The __utmv cookie is set on the user's device, to enable Google Analytics to classify the visitor. You need a good control first. YouTube sets this cookie via embedded youtube-videos and registers anonymous statistical data. Received email from CA saying all they did was clean and inspect and were shipping back to me. I would buy another. Companies can ask for reviews via automatic invitations.

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