The Greek word translated did is, Furticks focus is not on the events outlined in the text, but on the belief of those around Jesus as the limiting factor in His ability to do miracles. Youre asking him to critique an unbiblical perspective. The false teaching is the one that contradicts Gods own words when HE said that He is the only God, and when as the Son, He said that He (the Son/Word) and the Father are ONE (heis : one in ESSENCE) I dont know enough about Furtick to know whether he is preaching/teaching the heresy re what you speak creates your reality (a synergistic new age teaching brought into the church by quite a few false teachers of the NAR crowd who are spreading that teaching and building churches all over the US and probably around the world the Declaration statement may indicate this is in his mind if not his teaching but we can only know what he speaks out of his mouth directly) but Modalism is not false. Its important, again, to keep in mind the claim thats being addressed. Certainly Gods actions are, at times, conditional. In that case, your complaint seems irrelevant. Right, Jesus did miracles to show he was God the Son, as in, When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby. These were not unbelievers, but believed and even asked for Jesus to come heal Lazarus. Furtick is, quite simply, wrong: God can, and often does, override our unbelief. We need to be careful to avoid presuming Gods mind. Okay, I have taken enough of your time. First, phenomenal post! What must I do to be saved,believe. If a man is labeled as a false teacher and not only a weaker brother , can he possibly be a child of God. Heres something we can know with certainty: Gods power was not trapped in their perspective. Thats the direction of Furticks point, and its plain and simple evidence that hes comfortable pouring his own meaning INTO the text (eisegesis) rather than deriving Gods meaning OUT OF the text (exegesis). With respect, I dont really care if you feel things are unequal between me and those who comment on my website. Some teach that getting sin out of your life isnt a matter of obedience and self-discipline, but of being enlightened. Yes, breaking the law was a big deal and He did not break the law for love, but rather fulfilled the law to show love, to us who have. This describes his nature, just as soul the combination of body and spirit describes ours. Quite simply, youre both wrong. The reason people are taught that we cant understand the trinity is that we cant. Job, in, Nothing will be impossible with God. One thing that even the son of God cant do. She is only sleeping. But they (the doubters) laughed at Him. Gamaliel didnt know whether this new sect of Jesus-followers was from God or not. Weve gone back and forth a number of times, and Im not entirely clear on where you stand. Jakes, who teaches the heresy of modalism (see below). We want to think clearly about these questions, of course. Dont you think the disciples were confused when Jesus told THEM to feed the 5,000? Paul, you say, needed to be humbled. Gods power was not trapped in their unbelief. That elevates us higher than the Scriptures indicate, and limits God in ways the Scriptures dont. His disciples did not. Thats undeniably false. Heres a quote from Furtick for your consideration: Do you agree with Steven Furtick on this matter? THAT is where people who follow Jesus should get their information, and THAT is where all theology should begin. Unless we can become so unified that we actually indwell one another, I would suggest a less mystical reading of John 17. Zachariah didnt believe he could have a son at his advanced age it wasnt his faith that allowed God to give him John the Baptist. Fodder for another discussion, maybe. Let me know if you have any questions. When He doesnt, we shouldnt present our thoughts as if theyre His thoughts. Unfortunately, thats not the case with everyone. You and I arent Job, or Moses, or Jesus. Lets pretend for a moment that youre right, though. I believe it means all of Scripture and think these false teachings are adding to Scripture. Thats not legal. the gospel is being preached , judge not lest ye be judged . But, you are saying he did this by a sovereign act of his will, how can that be, since he specifically said; according to your faith be it unto you, as even your answer to such question, does our faith play a part in how God interacts with us, including healings. The implication, as taught over and over by these false teachers, is that we share Gods nature, and we can do the things He can do. While he holds an American nationality and practices Christianity. He draws us to Himself, or we could not be saved. Even overseers are to be above reproach (1 Timothy 3), and Furtick is a teacher he is held to a higher standard by God, and we should recognize that fact. Thanks. Hi there! Named one of his sons Graham after Charlotte-born evangelist Billy Graham. That doesnt make it wrong, of course but we should be careful about embracing concepts that are far removed from their source. I will try this and possibly get back with you when I get his response! Just as a manipulating womanizer can say true things, false teachers can be kind, sincere, morally upright people. Itss just cool. If you give the pizza delivery guy the wrong address, youll never get your pizza. Those are all from a single passage in John 5. In point of fact, it is undeniably heretical. Do you see it now? I have confidence that it happens all the time, all around the world. The simple truth is that I dont want you to trust me, Ryan. Because Steven Furtick isnt a reliable and responsible teacher, recommending their music is a lot like endorsing a false teacher. In Greater: Dream Bigger. Im not sure we can say that. The Bible isnt about you. And Jesus said unto him, Go your way; your faith has made you whole. To animals? You shared, we see that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are not the same as each other. Hello, I am in my mid thirties and trying to rebuild my faith. Do you see? Im encouraged by these discussions, as iron does sharpen iron. Obedience is very, very important but there are some churches that teach that a single act of disobedience will cause the Holy Spirit to leave you, losing your salvation. That God might use Furtick is easy to understand. One strategy is to ask questions in a different context. If Steven Furtick teaches things that contradict the Bible, were supposed to call him out on it. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. What gives you the right to say who is or is not of God? Steven Furtick butchered the meaning of the text in order to suit his own purposes, which at this point, are a quasi-form of Word of Faith light. For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. In Matthew 13:53-58 Jesus is in His hometown, and Hes not getting the same kind of response there that He got elsewhere. Found this quote in an article supposedly from T.D. True, I must admit I was not accurate as to what God can do, and does in His sovereignty, but still the scripture Mark 6:5 ; And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. sounds so close to Matthew 13:58, as here He was powerless to do no mighty work, Jesus was blocked, and even marveled at it, saying it was because of their unbelief. Our mindset is important, but we need to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Heres Furtick, talking about Gods encounter with Moses in the wilderness: When God said I Am to Moses, you know, my name is I Am, He was trying to get him to see you are as I am. does not equate to Gods blessing. Instead, we see in Scripture that God is sovereign, that there are none like Him, that there are none above Him, and so on. ", He had also tweeted a Bible passage, Isaiah 35:10, which reads in the NLT: "Those who have been ransomed by the LORD will return. There are distinctives between the working of the Holy Spirit and the moving of the Holy Spirit, and the working of the redemptive work of Christ. If healing belongs to us, why was Paul never healed? Dont listen to what I say, or what Steven Furtick says. Heres the order of modalism: Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions. There are no internal relationships in the Godhead but thats contrary to a whole bunch of clear passages of Scripture. In light of Furticks false teaching, this might simply be a big mistake, and not a lie but its worth noting when asking whether Furtick is a trustworthy Christian leader. Im not attacking Furtick. Thanks for doing this. I will send the full force of my plagues against you and against your officials and your people, so you may knowthat there is no one likeme in all the earth. Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. Instead of seeing Gods grace in this life and His mercy they didnt receive and STD or worse, the justify their sin going as far as to say It was obviously Gods will I have this baby, so I dont have to recognize my sin in its conception and anyone who tries to call me to account is going against Gods will.. His takeaway his summation for the sermon was the the people in Nazareth thought too little of themselves. Your James reference you switched up, 1:3 should be 3:1 . He enables us to believe. Why dont you take this seriously, Esther? They dont use sober judgment. Jesus was not judging them, they were judging themselves, self incriminating (thus not getting anything, James 1:4) for as, per John 3:18. Ive had to make these decisions on one of my other websites, Awesome Christian Music. That is convenient, yet to throw it out as false because someone uses it, is also wrong. They give a more complete picture of the events, and provide more accurate meanings. Trinity is somewhat difficult to understand. Does pointing to false teaching make one a Pharisee? Thanks. Its especially bad when we publish our bad decisions as a guide for others. Paul wanted to be healed, but lacked sufficient faith. Copyright 2023 Christian Today. He said if you listen to the Word and dont do it, youre like a man who looks at himself in a mirror in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God my Maker is my mirror. He just changed forms. If theyre not saved, we should pray for their salvation. So, to recap what you said; While its true that our faith can prompt God to act, our lack of faith cannot prevent Him from acting if He wants to. This man may be and seemingly is wrong on some doctrinal issues. In the same sermon, speaking of Jesus ascension into Heaven, Furtick said this: and now Jesus is taken from their sight, and hidden in a cloud, but he did not leave. Furthermore, nobody has a problem with the father speaking to the son, or the son speaking to the family or any of the other ideas that are used against the Trinity. Received you the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? And He therefore that ministers to you the Spirit, and works miracles among you, does he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Galatians 3: 2 and 5 Pastor Steven Furtick of the Elevation Church and his wife Holly Furtick are blessed with 3 Children in their marriage, two sons, Elijah and Graham, and daughter, Abbey. Wow, your example with children drives the point home WAY better than mine did. In a Facebook post from 2021, Furtick wrote this: Following Jesus doesnt change you into something else, it reveals who youve been all along. He noted that a prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home. Verse 58 says this: And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith. No: Jesus was UNABLE to perform the miracles He wanted to perform because the people of Nazareth lacked faith. John Rice associated with some he didnt agree with as long as they professed Christ as Savior. Pastor Steven Furtick. Have a great day! Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work. That doesnt mean that we should remain unaware of whats going on around us, or that we should ignore those who teach falsely in the name of Jesus. Having volunteers isnt deceptive, but giving the impression that theyre going to be baptized is. Thats bad. What ethnicity is Steven Furtick? The very nature of the gospel is that Jesus died in our place, so Furticks error on this matter touches on the most important subjects in Scripture. Find out whether the people you listen to are teaching what we find in the New Testament, or not. This makes no sense, of course but it does help Furtick set up more on the little gods doctrine. Some professing Christians have concluded from texts like this that human faith gives power to God. In context, Furtick is teaching about how we see ourselves versus how God sees us. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 10. Its not. Go watch the sermon. Matthew 24 gives us more: But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. But it and the other quotes slide perilously close. Steven Furtick associates himself and his church with other false teachers. Does that make sense? Theres a GIGANTIC difference between what God CAN do and what God WILL do. Pastor Furtick is one of the chosen. Word of Faith teachers typically demote God and limit Him in ways that dont match Scripture. How about occasionally giving the gospel . Ive had to NOT put some of my favorite songs on the website because I found that they were made by worship ministers at Joel Osteens church, or wherever. The miracles of Jesus bore witness to His identity as the Son of God, but the people in Nazareth had rejected Him. If you will, please answer VERY briefly these are the only options I can think of, so pick one: Please just pick one, or propose your own as briefly as you can. Elevation pastor is not wrong at all. Jesus, in no sense, changed forms at the ascension. May I share a harsh scripture that not only you, but all of us, may need to consider, Acts 5:38,39. He is unique. Look at His actual words, in John 12: For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. No, I do not see it, as Furtick said of Jesus; He wanted to. When Steven Furtick started Elevation Church in early 2006, he had just 14 members.Fast-forward 7 years, the average attendance is reported as 11,719 people, as the success of Elevation Church has exceeded all expectations.The popularity of the church, along with the associated merchandising and book deals, has allowed Furtick to build the mansion of his dreams in Weddington, North Carolina. I believe he believes what hes saying. Does this man believe ? Thanks! Paul didnt speak faith-filled words to manifest in the physical the reality that he had already been healed in the spiritual. Women should never cut their hair. If Jesus (the Son) is only the form that God took to carry out functions for man, why did the Son exist before man did? Millennials Generation. He just changed forms.. Besides, she is also the friendship coach of the Women Evolve movement. Thanks for visiting! Someone gave me a good example that Ill share with you: if the Jehovahs Witnesses started producing really good music that your church liked to sing, would you be okay with that? I dont have a definitive answer. These limits are self-imposed, of course and they are chosen to produce the best outcome. If saved , is the man that teaches error deliberately contradicting the Holy Spirit ? Pastor Steven Furtick. Apart from this he also a songwriter and a best-selling national author as specified by one of the leading publications in the country. I just want the truth which I believe I can only find through prayer, study and revelation. Got it. (Psalm 116:15 NIV)." For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Its important to make sure we keep the question in mind. Almost all of the books in the New Testament warn us about false teachers, and tell us what to do when we find them. It has five bedrooms and seven bathrooms. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you, And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith.